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  • #76
    Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Players win football games not coach's.
    Who are they and at what position are they ranked? One is a Tackle, one a DB and the last a DE.
    See, I disagree with you there. Coaches win them as well, and I think football is the sport where coaching has the most impact. In no other sport can a coach's impact the outcome more than football.

    The other Packer players? Would have to be Forrest Greg and Herb Adderly. Assuming the DE isn't White, it would have to be Davis.
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    • #77
      RIght now Reggie White is leading Curly Lambeau at PFT. Described as a slim led with 90,000 total votes having been cast.

      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        RIght now Reggie White is leading Curly Lambeau at PFT. Described as a slim led with 90,000 total votes having been cast.

        http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-home-stretch/
        That is just wrong. Reggie was good and helped the Packers, but no way does he belong in the top 4, not even if it is just players. I'd have trouble including White on Rushmore #2 for the Packers.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
          That is just wrong. Reggie was good and helped the Packers, but no way does he belong in the top 4, not even if it is just players. I'd have trouble including White on Rushmore #2 for the Packers.
          I agree. White was but a fleeting blip in the history of the Packers. Great player before he came, excellent player while in GB. Morally principled and all that. But here only a short time.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
            See, I disagree with you there. Coaches win them as well, and I think football is the sport where coaching has the most impact. In no other sport can a coach's impact the outcome more than football.

            The other Packer players? Would have to be Forrest Greg and Herb Adderly. Assuming the DE isn't White, it would have to be Davis.
            Any decent coach wins with the skills of a Favre, Nitschke and Starr in their lineup as long as the other components are in place. I'll admit that a HC has to command the respect of his players and that they give 100% and be in top shape. That's where the Packers of the 60's and Vince Lombardi dominated. Lombardi had his team in the best shape to play the gruelling schedule.

            As a fan of sports it's always been the players I followed not the coachs. No coach has ever been or will be my hero.

            The other Packers that made the Top 100 All time NFL Players list are as you posted Guiness:

            T Forrest Gregg (#54) and DB Herb Adderly (#64) and at DE Willie Davis (#86) not Reggie White (#7) that made the Top 100 as an Eagle.

            Here's a LINK to the Top 100 List:




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            • #81
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              RIght now Reggie White is leading Curly Lambeau at PFT. Described as a slim led with 90,000 total votes having been cast.

              http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-home-stretch/
              I did not vote before, but there is no way White, who was great, earned a top 4 slot with the Packers.

              Lambeau, Hutson, Lombardi and Starr.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                I did not vote before, but there is no way White, who was great, earned a top 4 slot with the Packers.

                Lambeau, Hutson, Lombardi and Starr.
                Well then, vote!
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Well then, vote!
                  That is why I said before. I decided to participate in one of the internets versions of democracy after reading your post.
                  All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                    See, I disagree with you there. Coaches win them as well, and I think football is the sport where coaching has the most impact. In no other sport can a coach's impact the outcome more than football.

                    The other Packer players? Would have to be Forrest Greg and Herb Adderly. Assuming the DE isn't White, it would have to be Davis.
                    Yeah, they had an interview with John Madded one time and he said that he went to a seminar that Lombardi was leading. Lombardi spent the whole day discussing one play, the Packers power sweep. Madden said he realized right then he had no idea how to coach a football team.
                    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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                    • #85
                      where are you seeing the results?
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                        Any decent coach wins with the skills of a Favre, Nitschke and Starr in their lineup as long as the other components are in place.
                        The flip side to that is would those players become great, and would the other components be sufficient with 'any decent coach'. Great coaches have the ability to get everything out of a player. We'd like to think great players are self-motivated, and to some extent they are, but to really become great they need a coach who hits just the right buttons. I'm not particularly arguing against the 4 you picked, they all deserve it. The Packers need a Rushmore mountain range.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                          where are you seeing the results?
                          They aren't posting running totals, he just summarized the White/Lambeau vote in another post.

                          I think voting ends today if I recall another post correctly.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Jamal Reynolds, T.J. Rubley, Ahmad Carroll and Tony Mandarich.
                            Subtract TJ Rubley and Jamaal Reynolds, add Rich Campbell and Bruce Clark.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                              The flip side to that is would those players become great, and would the other components be sufficient with 'any decent coach'. Great coaches have the ability to get everything out of a player. We'd like to think great players are self-motivated, and to some extent they are, but to really become great they need a coach who hits just the right buttons. I'm not particularly arguing against the 4 you picked, they all deserve it. The Packers need a Rushmore mountain range.
                              I had the privilege of seeing Brett Favre, Ray Nitschke and Bart Starr play. All three were very special Green Bay Packer players and are obvious picks for me.

                              I cannot even imagine how good this 'my choice for greatest', Green Bay Packer player was:

                              Don Hutson was something else as a WR and a pioneer in that phase of the game. He is still regarded as one of the very best WR's and players in NFL history.

                              At the time of his retirement he held most receiving records:

                              Most seasons led league, scoring: 5 *

                              Most consecutive seasons led league, scoring: 5 *

                              Most points scored in a quarter: 29 *

                              Most touchdowns scored in a quarter: 4 *

                              Most touchdown receptions in a quarter: 4 *

                              Most seasons led league, touchdowns: 8 *

                              Most consecutive seasons led league, touchdowns: 4 *

                              Most seasons led league, receiving touchdowns: 9 *

                              Most consecutive seasons led league, receiving touchdowns: 5 *

                              Most seasons led league, receptions: 8 *

                              Most consecutive seasons led league, receptions: 5 *

                              Most seasons led league, receiving yards: 7 *

                              Most consecutive seasons led league, receiving yards: 4 *

                              Most receptions, career: 488

                              Most receptions, season: 74

                              Most receptions, game: 14

                              Most receiving yards, career: 7,991

                              Most receiving yards, season: 1,211

                              Most receiving yards, game: 209

                              Most receiving touchdowns, career: 99

                              Most touchdowns, season: 17

                              Most touchdowns, game: 4

                              Note: * = remains an NFL record.

                              Remarkably and as of the end of the 2012 NFL season, Hutson among other records share or otherwise; still holds the following eight (8) prominent pass receiving and scoring records:

                              ** Most seasons leading league in pass receptions (8)

                              ** Most consecutive seasons leading league in pass receptions (5)

                              ** Most seasons leading league in pass receiving yards gained (7)

                              ** Most consecutive seasons leading league in pass receiving yards gained (4)

                              ** Most seasons leading league in pass receiving touchdowns (9)

                              ** Most consecutive seasons leading league in pass receiving touchdowns (5)

                              ** Most seasons leading league in scoring (5)

                              ** Most consecutive seasons leading league in scoring (5)

                              Source: NFL Record and fact book.

                              Don Hutson ... 'the GREATEST Green Bay Packer player' of All TIME.

                              I can say that I was privileged to see six of the TOP Seven All Time Green Bay Packer players play.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Subtract TJ Rubley and Jamaal Reynolds, add Rich Campbell and Bruce Clark.
                                Not Bruce Clark. You have to have actually been a Packer.
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                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
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