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SS is not the problem. TW has had 2 mediocre years in row -- that is what fans remember.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostAt least someone knows what they are talking about. Same goes with Tramon Williams, seems like fans only remember those two games against the Vikings and 49ers and act like Tramon Williams was getting toasted all season.
Guess where the option plays are headed if TW is on the field? The Jarrett Bush of run defense
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Originally posted by GBPG-WesHodThere’s been the occasional bump in the road, but Shields molded into one of the top defenders in the league last year. According to Pro Football Focus, no NFL cornerback was tougher to foil than Shields, who led the league in coverage snaps per reception (16.3).
As I recall, Shields wasn't having a tough camp because of his play, but unavailability/limited action due to nagging injuries. House took advantage of this opening and played the best of the rest until he was hurt. Shields then came back late and had good practices but not enough that he could dissuade the coaches from starting Bush.
The doubts about Shields lasted less than one week.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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My recollection is that he was just playing poorly in camp, but I could be wrong about that.Originally posted by pbmax View Posthttp://www.packersnews.com/article/2...0101/130520044
As I recall, Shields wasn't having a tough camp because of his play, but unavailability/limited action due to nagging injuries. House took advantage of this opening and played the best of the rest until he was hurt. Shields then came back late and had good practices but not enough that he could dissuade the coaches from starting Bush.
The doubts about Shields lasted less than one week.
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He is still not the same guy as 2010, but the news about his shoulder seemed to suggest that the nerve damage would not have healed by the start of the 2012 season. So he could still be recovering. If the shoulder was still the issue, he should be markedly more consistent this year.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostAt least someone knows what they are talking about. Same goes with Tramon Williams, seems like fans only remember those two games against the Vikings and 49ers and act like Tramon Williams was getting toasted all season.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I think the House love might be kind of premature. He's looked good so far in limited roles but the whole thing seems rooted in the 2012 camp battle between Shields, House, and Bush. A battle that ultimately resulted in Bush starting against the 49ers week 1. As of now Williams and Shields seem pretty entrenched as starters.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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I think they keep TW this year. Those CB's will get dinged up and I like Bush on ST but not at CB. Hard to have 4 good-enough corners, you don't give that up w/o good reason. AFAIK, TW's not a locker room problem or a crazy evil felon. The shoulder will be better this year and the increased competition will help. I think Whitt will push him to play better, including tackling and run defense.
House doesn't have much of a track record, and Heyward is a slot corner. Skeptical he has the speed to play outside, and I like his instincts to play slot. I like but don't love Shields -- he's coachable and still has room to grow, so I consider him "good but not great" and not at his ceiling. If he were playing for MIN or DET he'd easily be their top corner.
Nominating/hoping for a breakout year from EDS.
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When you are hurt, your willingness to throw your body in there goes way down. Even with a full recovery, you can still have that trepidation. Williams may need a confidence boost as much as any physical improvement.Originally posted by pbmax View PostHe is still not the same guy as 2010, but the news about his shoulder seemed to suggest that the nerve damage would not have healed by the start of the 2012 season. So he could still be recovering. If the shoulder was still the issue, he should be markedly more consistent this year.
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I hope so. Williams apparently gave an interview in Baltimore that indicated his shoulder was still bothering him but he told the media that he had been referring back to 2011.Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View PostWhen you are hurt, your willingness to throw your body in there goes way down. Even with a full recovery, you can still have that trepidation. Williams may need a confidence boost as much as any physical improvement.
He says nerve is still getting better but shoulder (structurally?) is sound. Claims it did not bother him in 2012. But if he knows nerve is not back, then it must manifest itself in some way.
Today: http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/208371061.html
Radio: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/0...alks-football/Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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This could very well be. If the nerv damage is still there, I imagine it's harder to get the injury out of his head even though he probably can do everything. He has to get his head right though. Now that's on him. You just have to do it, learn to trust it.Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View PostWhen you are hurt, your willingness to throw your body in there goes way down. Even with a full recovery, you can still have that trepidation. Williams may need a confidence boost as much as any physical improvement.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Tramon was clearly avoiding making some tackles late last year. Something wasn't right. His shoulder. His head. Something.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Just read a fluff piece on Williams. It sounds like he's in fantastic friggin shape and ready to roll. There was also a really interesting comment on Woodson. Apparently Williams met two of Woodson's trainers and both said Wood was the hardest worker they've seen. I woulda never guessed that. Woodson has a lot of pride. I hope he gets 5 more picks this year. That guy loves football.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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Again Woodson is a great role model off the field.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostJust read a fluff piece on Williams. It sounds like he's in fantastic friggin shape and ready to roll. There was also a really interesting comment on Woodson. Apparently Williams met two of Woodson's trainers and both said Wood was the hardest worker they've seen. I woulda never guessed that. Woodson has a lot of pride. I hope he gets 5 more picks this year. That guy loves football.
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