A Strength and Conditioning Program That Works: Six Seattle Players Busted for PEDs Since 2011

[pbmax]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/19/six-seahawks-have-tested-positive-for-peds-since-2011/

1. Richard Sherman
2. Bruce Irvin
3. Brandon Browner
4. Winston Guy
5. John Moffitt
6. Allen Barbre

Now this will cure both small and slow.

[denverYooper]

Barbre. Huh.

[denverYooper]

I don't think I ever mentioned it on PR, but I'd had a thought about the Packers injury problems vs other teams: that they aren't taking whatever newfangled regenerative therapies that are going around. They're like Rocky carrying logs through the snow while teams like the Vikings (Williams Wall) and Seattle are shooting up and pounding kilometers on the treadmill.

But I've never mentioned it because it gets out into a pretty heavy homer narrative -- that Green Bay is more wholesome than other teams wrt PEDs -- that I feel I'd be naive to buy.

[rbaloha1]

The league is filled with players using Human Growth Hormone which is currently not tested for.

Getting a legal prescription for Attention Deficit Disorder is also very easy.

[Joemailman]

How extensive is the testing program? Just wondering to what extent, if any, the 6 who were caught are just the tip of the iceberg?

[rbaloha1]

How extensive is the testing program? Just wondering to what extent, if any, the 6 who were caught are just the tip of the iceberg?

It is not at the Olympics level due to the player's union.

[denverYooper]

The league is filled with players using Human Growth Hormone which is currently not tested for.

Getting a legal prescription for Attention Deficit Disorder is also very easy.

Tell that to fake tough guy.

[rbaloha1]

Tell that to fake tough guy.

His problem was a failure to disclose to the league.

[Old School]

I'm no expert, but I've often wondered if the high number of injuries might be connected to roids, HGH, or the flavor of the day. I remember Mark Prior of the Cubs having unbelievably huge calves he used to generate power for his fastball. After a succession of injuries, he mysteriously had skinny, by comparison, legs.

[pbmax]

I'm no expert, but I've often wondered if the high number of injuries might be connected to roids, HGH, or the flavor of the day. I remember Mark Prior of the Cubs having unbelievably huge calves he used to generate power for his fastball. After a succession of injuries, he mysteriously had skinny, by comparison, legs.

Its possible, though visual evidence can obviously be misleading. Most of the new stuff, though, is designed, used in combination and/or scheduled to either protect or strengthen other soft tissue as well to prevent those kinds of blowouts. Its one of the reasons HGH is so popular.


Or so I have heard.

[pbmax]

How extensive is the testing program? Just wondering to what extent, if any, the 6 who were caught are just the tip of the iceberg?

Random tests can come at any time and there is a minimum of once per year. I believe, though don't have the link handy, that many are tested again in-season. Prior to the 2012 CBA the conventional wisdom among football players was that you had to avoid drug use in season AND prior to your offseason random test. Between that test and camp, it was full go.

The tests they use, minus HGH, are the same tests with the same labs as WADA and USADA. The list of banned substances is similar, including many innocuous substances due to possible masking effects.

Prior to the HGH kerfuffle, the biggest difference between Olympic and NFL programs were penalties. Olympic athletes lose years. NFL players lose games. There is obviously room for disagreement about the length of suspensions because careers are shorter and NFL games are more frequent than many Olympic sporting events.

That being said, WADA is one of the most odious, self-righteous entities on the planet.

[Old School]

"ODIOUS" - the word of the day. Good one!!!

[George Cumby]

This comes as a surprise to me.

Pete Carroll has always been such a stickler for rules.

Weird.

[rbaloha1]

This comes as a surprise to me.

Pete Carroll has always been such a stickler for rules.

Weird.

You are joking?

Rules -- what happened at USC during Carroll's reign.

[Carolina_Packer]

You are joking?

Rules -- what happened at USC during Carroll's reign.

Pretty sure, ol' George was being funny, seeing as how Pete left USC before the hammer fell, and he got his fat NFL contract.