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  • #76
    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
    Again, Luck and Rodgers don't run it because they don't rely on gimmicks to beat you....they don't have to. Honestly, explain why Rodgers CAN'T run the RO. He is athletic and reasonably fast. He is very good at making reads. What is it that he lacks?
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    • #77
      In Clefty's estimation, the Tebow Bronco experience was the gimmick; that team went for a stretch of maybe 12 games with only 3 where the offense passed for more than 150 yards - and in many cases, the passing yards came on very few long gains. In today's NFL, an offense that relies exclusively or predominantly on the run in the RO offense will ultimately be a pariah - much like the team that runs the ball but can't pass (for example, see the Vikings in their wildcard round from last year).

      The 2011 Broncos were trying to make the best of an bad situation with a QB who couldn't pass, and so relied on the RO as a gimmick and/or desperate necessity. You have to admire Tebow for doing so much with so little.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Guiness View Post
        The correct pigskin mentation
        FIFY, as the kids say. You need to think clearly about football.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
          Untrue. Tebow ran it in denver and made the playoffs doing so.
          Increases the percentages of read option qbs despite being white making the playoffs.

          Maintain TT's style is an anomaly rather than a trend like CK, RGIII and Wilson

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          • #80
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
            Untrue. Tebow ran it in denver and made the playoffs doing so.
            Why is he unemployed as opposed to Woodson?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
              Why is he unemployed as opposed to Woodson?
              Why does this orange taste like 50 pounds?
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Zool View Post
                Why does this orange taste like 50 pounds?
                Riddle me this batman.

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                • #83
                  Someone mentioned this link about the read-option: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...er-nfl-careers (good article). There's a link in that article from a hyperlink that says "which I highly recommend reading" which takes you to the following article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...he-read-option This article does talk strategies and shows some schematics which I always find interesting. One thing that really got my attention came near the end of the article and I quote:

                  "Outside linebackers Paul Kruger, Erik Walden and Connor Barwin drew big money on the open market thanks to their ability to set the edge." Erik Walden setting an edge? Um, OK.
                  "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                  • #84
                    Was the statement that you must be able to pass to be able to run the read option was just short hand for:

                    To be successful in the NFL, one must be able to pass as well as run the Read Option.

                    BTW, while I was surprised find that Newton's offense ran read option in 2012, I was perhaps even more surprised that they ran it in 2011, which I do not remember seeing versus the Packers early in the season. But there you go. Same year Timmy was running it in Denver.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Was the statement that you must be able to pass to be able to run the read option was just short hand for:

                      To be successful in the NFL, one must be able to pass as well as run the Read Option.

                      BTW, while I was surprised find that Newton's offense ran read option in 2012, I was perhaps even more surprised that they ran it in 2011, which I do not remember seeing versus the Packers early in the season. But there you go. Same year Timmy was running it in Denver.
                      No surprise. Dude has a chance to be a superstar.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                        Increases the percentages of read option qbs despite being white making the playoffs.

                        Maintain TT's style is an anomaly rather than a trend like CK, RGIII and Wilson
                        I can only assume the TT hate is because he is white? Or you are just fucking with me (a distinct possibility). Now, I don't think he can be a big time winner, but I don't think a RO QB can be. I think RGIII will be, but because I think he will turn into a great QB. I also have high hopes for Wilson. CK? We'll see. Newton, I don't think will ever win.

                        TT is the most accomplished RO QB ever. TT won a national championship (2x). TT won a Heisman. TT took a losing NFL team and made the playoffs knocking off the defending AFC champs. TT is not as inaccurate as they try and make it out to be. TT's "style" is very much like the above mentioned QB's.

                        To answer why he is unemployed its because NO team wants the media circus/distraction. Can you honestly tell me he doesn't even merit an offer as a backup?
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                          BTW read option as a legit dimension is one season old with CK, RGIII and Wilson making the playoffs -- not a bad percentage.
                          I will take 2 great D's and an all around good QB for $200 Alex.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Was the statement that you must be able to pass to be able to run the read option was just short hand for:

                            To be successful in the NFL, one must be able to pass as well as run the Read Option.
                            .
                            Which is shorthand for: To be successful in the NFL one must be able to pass.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                              I can only assume the TT hate is because he is white? Or you are just fucking with me (a distinct possibility). Now, I don't think he can be a big time winner, but I don't think a RO QB can be. I think RGIII will be, but because I think he will turn into a great QB. I also have high hopes for Wilson. CK? We'll see. Newton, I don't think will ever win.

                              TT is the most accomplished RO QB ever. TT won a national championship (2x). TT won a Heisman. TT took a losing NFL team and made the playoffs knocking off the defending AFC champs. TT is not as inaccurate as they try and make it out to be. TT's "style" is very much like the above mentioned QB's.

                              To answer why he is unemployed its because NO team wants the media circus/distraction. Can you honestly tell me he doesn't even merit an offer as a backup?
                              Not messing with you since it is too easy -- LOL

                              TT's college success is irrelevant.

                              TT is not in the league because he can not throw from the pocket. No NFL team is going to retool a roster for a ONE DIMENSIONAL RUNNING QB. THIS IS NOT A SINGLE WING LEAGUE.

                              TT is not in the league because teams want him to switch positions which he refuses to do. TT is not a qb starter even in the CFL.

                              Your boy needs to stick to preaching and circumsising.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by rbaloha1 View Post
                                Not messing with you since it is too easy -- LOL

                                TT's college success is irrelevant.

                                TT is not in the league because he can not throw from the pocket. No NFL team is going to retool a roster for a ONE DIMENSIONAL RUNNING QB. THIS IS NOT A SINGLE WING LEAGUE.

                                TT is not in the league because teams want him to switch positions which he refuses to do. TT is not a qb starter even in the CFL.

                                Your boy needs to stick to preaching and circumsising.
                                He isn't my boy. I have said many times he can't be a successful long term QB without completely retooling his game. I am simply saying he is the most accomplished RO QB of all time. IMO that is a worthless thing.
                                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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