Read-Option QBs

[ThunderDan]

Interesting article from Bleacher Report.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1644413-are-read-option-quarterbacks-destined-for-shorter-nfl-careers

[rbaloha1]

Excellent article that try its best to be neutral.

Provides good ammo for the naysayers and good ammo that this offense is legitimate and not a fad.

Okay naysayers -- go for it!

[MadScientist]

The top pocket passers will have longer careers than the top option QB's. The reason is that they will lose a step or two after 30, making the option less of an option. You won't likely see them playing at 35-40, unlike Brady, and Manning are, Favre did and hopefully Rodgers will. If this offense is not defeated by scheme, I would expect the QB's careers to parallel that of a running back, so by the time they hit 30 they are done, at least as far as running the option. The best may convert to a pocket passer after that point.

[Brandon494]

The one thing that Rodgers needs to work on that those other three guys were great at is getting rid of the ball quicker. He holds onto the ball way too long at times looking for the big play, he needs to realize that most of the time a sack can kill a drive. Manning might be the best ever at it, that guy rarely ever gets sacked.

[ThunderDan]

The one thing that Rodgers needs to work on that those other three guys were great at is getting rid of the ball quicker. He holds onto the ball way too long at times looking for the big play, he needs to realize that most of the time a sack can kill a drive. Manning might be the best ever at it, that guy rarely ever gets sacked.

One thing I do know that kills drives are INTs.

Here are the first five years starting:
Rodgers - 45 INTs
Brady - 66 INTs
Favre - 77 INTs
Manning - 100 INTs (of course he got to start for the Colts)

[ThunderDan]

If you pick the five best INT years of those 4 QBs you get.

Brady - 44 Ints
Rodgers - 45 Ints (only five years to choose from)
Manning - 50 Ints
Favre - 60 Ints (best 5 of 20)

[Brandon494]

Those stats are kinda unfair for Manning since he started right away as a rookie while Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years learning the offense. You are right about INTs killing driving but a lot of times Rodgers could easily dump it off for a short gain instead of always looking for the long ball.

[ThunderDan]

Those stats are kinda unfair for Manning since he started right away as a rookie while Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years learning the offense. You are right about INTs killing driving but a lot of times Rodgers could easily dump it off for a short gain instead of always looking for the long ball.

I know I commented in the game day threads that Finley was open a lot over the middle short and Rodgers would go elsewhere with the ball.

[pbmax]

I know I commented in the game day threads that Finley was open a lot over the middle short and Rodgers would go elsewhere with the ball.

THIS.

Of course, Fin wasn't helping his own case. But Rodgers also looked off Cobb and Nelson a few times for moderate gains.

[rbaloha1]

Why are the naysayers not responding with gimmick offense, fad, defenses will figure it out, etc. etc.

Very strange (minus big font)

[ThunderDan]

Why are the naysayers not responding with gimmick offense, fad, defenses will figure it out, etc. etc.

Very strange (minus big font)

Because the board has learned that there is no reason to have a discussion with you.

[rbaloha1]

Because the board has learned that there is no reason to have a discussion with you.

Thanks Sherlock

[bobblehead]

Excellent article that try its best to be neutral.

Provides good ammo for the naysayers and good ammo that this offense is legitimate and not a fad.

Okay naysayers -- go for it!

Its a fad. The final 4 teams this season will be at least 3 pocket passers (Manning, Brady, Rodgers and Ryan). Last season the final 4 were Manning, Flacco, Ryan, Kapernick.

Maybe a gimmick guy surprises this year again and makes it, but long term success in the NFL is done through a pocket passer and running effectively.

[Brandon494]

Its a new day and age, you have young rising stars in RGIII, Luck, Wilson, Kapernick, and Newton who can all run the ball. I believe more teams are looking more at QBs who are mobile out of the pocket as evidence in this years draft with EJ Manuel being the only QB taken in the 1st round.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014QB.php - List of the top QB prospects for next years draft, it you notice a lot of them are dual threats including the top 3 prospects.

[Upnorth]

If you are a pocket passer behind a poor oline you get hit hard a lot as well, so to me oline has a high impact on qb survivability whether they are a pocket passer or read option.

As an infuriating aside when watching the kapernick highlight reel against the packers it amazaes me how often we had a person in an area to contain or limit ck and he just tured his back to the ball. How could they do that over and over, aaarrrgghh.