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    Not sure if this was posted anywhere else.

    In 2012, Packers linebacker Desmond Bishop never saw the field after suffering a hamstring injury in the preseason.
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  • #2
    Very much will like having Desmond back. But he is not a panacea. He was a major part of one mediocre year (2010) and one terrible year (2011) of Run Defense.

    Answer probably lies elsewhere.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      He brings pressure up the middle and can also cause turnovers with big hits, something we didn't have last season with our ILBs. Defense adding Bishop, Perry, and Jones should imo really help the run defense.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Very much will like having Desmond back. But he is not a panacea. He was a major part of one mediocre year (2010) and one terrible year (2011) of Pass Defense.

        Answer probably lies elsewhere.
        Fixed. In 2011 Aaron Rodgers provided the greatest run defense in the league. Running the ball was a waste of time. Time that was precious since you were going to need 30+ points to win and was much better spent getting easy completions against a secondary that played like there was a carbon monoxide leak.

        Anyways Bishop is certainly capable of making a probowl and certainly has a punchers chance at DPOY. I hope every player on the defense has those kind of aspirations.
        70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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        • #6
          His attitude is great, but this is a standard off season puff piece. Makes everything sound great and makes you want to root for a player. Some of the WR's and DB's show a bit during the OTA's, but with Bishop I don't think we will get much real information until preseason game 2-3.
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          • #7
            Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
            Fixed. In 2011 Aaron Rodgers provided the greatest run defense in the league. Running the ball was a waste of time. Time that was precious since you were going to need 30+ points to win and was much better spent getting easy completions against a secondary that played like there was a carbon monoxide leak.

            Anyways Bishop is certainly capable of making a probowl and certainly has a punchers chance at DPOY. I hope every player on the defense has those kind of aspirations.
            The numbers weren't huge, but when teams COULD run, they did so successfully in 2011.

            Football Outsiders had them ranked at #29 versus the run. Pass D was 24th.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #8
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              The numbers weren't huge, but when teams COULD run, they did so successfully in 2011.

              Football Outsiders had them ranked at #29 versus the run. Pass D was 24th.
              The 2010 team was ranked like 26th or 28th weren't they? That doesn't tell the story though on the field. Whenever they needed to stop the run they did so with ease. Until last year we were on a pretty good 3 year streak of never being beaten by a running back.
              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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              • #9
                "According to Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network and NFL.com (via his colleague, Ian Rapoport), the Packers are willing to trade inside linebacker Desmond Bishop."

                Clefty will pay attention to see how correct Messrs Jeremiah and Rapoport are in their reporting. They may be worthy of the Urinalscented crack squad. Just to make a basic common sense observation: every team is willing to trade any player, so long as the price is right.

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                • #10
                  Not a big fan of Bishop. Always thought he was a bit over hyped and over rated. Just my personal opinion.
                  "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Very much will like having Desmond back. But he is not a panacea. He was a major part of one mediocre year (2010) and one terrible year (2011) of Run Defense.

                    Answer probably lies elsewhere.
                    Again (without the big font) -- what are you watching?

                    Who makes impact plays? Hawk?

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Cleft Crusty View Post
                      "According to Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network and NFL.com (via his colleague, Ian Rapoport), the Packers are willing to trade inside linebacker Desmond Bishop."

                      Clefty will pay attention to see how correct Messrs Jeremiah and Rapoport are in their reporting. They may be worthy of the Urinalscented crack squad. Just to make a basic common sense observation: every team is willing to trade any player, so long as the price is right.
                      TT tried to under state it. My guess is someone is about to emerge.

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by ND72 View Post
                        Not a big fan of Hawk. Always thought he was a bit over hyped and over rated. Just my personal opinion.
                        fixed

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                        • #14
                          A healthy Desmond makes this D better. He hits hard and provides the aggressive edge that the team needs.

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                          • #15
                            Unfortunately, I think the Packers do view their ability to score points on offense as a form of run defense. Why the Packers as an organization don't like to play physical football is a mystery to me, but it is what it is.

                            The Packers are a soft, finesse, passing team. Everything else is a function of that, including defense.

                            I doubt you could eat a candy bar in the amount of time Capers spends on prepping to stop an opponents running game. 2nd and 6 he's already in a 2-4 regardless of the score... give us a bit of a lead?? middle of the 3rd quarter on?? we don't need no stinkin' linemen!!!
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