The Passing of a Legend

[Guiness]

how many sacks would he have in todays NFL when he couldn't use the head slap to stun his blockers?

honestly, the guy is probably responsible for a good chunk of the old players who are currently suing the NFL because they can't remember their names

Between the legal head slap and OL not being able to extend their arms, it's a wonder the QB didn't end up on his ass every play. That accounts for the 20 pass plays/game and '3 yards and a cloud of dust', because if the DL correctly guessed you were passing, you were done. On third and long I bet the QB got rid of the ball in a hurry!

[Patler]

Between the legal head slap and OL not being able to extend their arms, it's a wonder the QB didn't end up on his ass every play. That accounts for the 20 pass plays/game and '3 yards and a cloud of dust', because if the DL correctly guessed you were passing, you were done. On third and long I bet the QB got rid of the ball in a hurry!

Don't forget, too, that QBs were fair game to be blasted long after they got rid of the ball, as the rushers were allowed to "finish" their effort. Sometimes it was laughably long after the throw. If a DL couldn't get there, a slap to the QB's headgear was common. QBs got hit a lot back then.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Deacon Jones was a monster, but you have to also consider that his head-slap move gave him an advantage over more modern players.

[Guiness]

Don't forget, too, that QBs were fair game to be blasted long after they got rid of the ball, as the rushers were allowed to "finish" their effort. Sometimes it was laughably long after the throw. If a DL couldn't get there, a slap to the QB's headgear was common. QBs got hit a lot back then.

You mean the way Martin 'finished the play' (and the career) on/of Jim McMahon?

[Patler]

You mean the way Martin 'finished the play' (and the career) on/of Jim McMahon?

Sort of. That was a "block" on an interception, wasn't it?

QBs could be hit, knocked down or dragged down so long as it was a continuous extension of the pass rush toward the passer. To avoid it, QBs would often move immediately after throwing, making the rusher alter his path so it wasn't a continuous extension of the pass rush. If the pocket was tight on them, the QB often got buried under a pile of humanity long after the pass was thrown.

[Carolina_Packer]

Sort of. That was a "block" on an interception, wasn't it?

QBs could be hit, knocked down or dragged down so long as it was a continuous extension of the pass rush toward the passer. To avoid it, QBs would often move immediately after throwing, making the rusher alter his path so it wasn't a continuous extension of the pass rush. If the pocket was tight on them, the QB often got buried under a pile of humanity long after the pass was thrown.

No, it was a throw by McMahon that was intercepted by Mark Lee and long after the throw was picked, Charles Martin bear hugs McMahon from behind and body slams him on that old nasty turf at Soldier Field. Check this out. That was a pretty bush league play by Martin. Those were dark days, Packer fans.

[Patler]

No, it was a throw by McMahon that was intercepted by Mark Lee and long after the throw was picked, Charles Martin bear hugs McMahon from behind and body slams him on that old nasty turf at Soldier Field. Check this out. That was a pretty bush league play by Martin. Those were dark days, Packer fans.

Ah, ya.....that's why I said it was a "block" (notice the quotes) on an interception. McMahon threw the interception and the only reason for Martin to hit him at that point was to block him. I was being facetious.

[Carolina_Packer]

Ah, ya.....that's why I said it was a "block" (notice the quotes) on an interception. McMahon threw the interception and the only reason for Martin to hit him at that point was to block him. I was being facetious.

My facetious meter was off, sorry. I am very literal today, I guess. A similarly good block was Warren Sapp's on Chad Clifton.

[Guiness]

My facetious meter was off, sorry. I am very literal today, I guess. A similarly good block was Warren Sapp's on Chad Clifton.

Sapp's hit was bush league, but still not in the same stratosphere as what Martin did. Watching that replay of Martin's bodyslam makes me shiver.

[woodbuck27]

Didn't see Deacon play. Loved his attitude and the blue and white Rams unis.

Then your younger than I imagined pbmax.

I was shocked to see that Deacon Jones has left us. I will post this LINK on this matter that may lend some information on that death. You have to consider the source regarding this ** as you read it.

" (Lem) Barney is one of more than 4,000 former players who have taken legal action alleging the NFL didn’t provide enough information concussions and the long-term effects. " Fr. LINK below

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/05/lem-barney-suspects-head-injuries-led-to-deacon-jones-death

Lem Barney suspects head injuries led to Deacon Jones’ death

The Sports Xchange

First posted: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 03:29 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 03:51 PM EDT



R.I.P. Mr. Deacon Jones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacon_Jones

[woodbuck27]

My facetious meter was off, sorry. I am very literal today, I guess. A similarly good block was Warren Sapp's on Chad Clifton.

In the over half century I've watched football. Nothing even marginally pissed me off more than Warren 'dough head' Sapp's, bush league block on Chad Clifton. That was totally unnecessary. SICK !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBpEIRaGq2U

GO PACK GO !

[Patler]

Sapp's hit was bush league, but still not in the same stratosphere as what Martin did. Watching that replay of Martin's bodyslam makes me shiver.

I've always wondered just what was going through his mind at the time.

[Carolina_Packer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dltz7SPGWw Here is a nice highlight reel of Deacon Jones game action, complete with the Rocky Theme. My favorite is when he sacks the Cardinals QB while being blocked; just drags the guy to the ground with one hand. Amazing.

Deacon Jones...Datone Jones...both with ties to LA...just sayin! If he can cause that kind of havoc, he's a steal at #26.

[Guiness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dltz7SPGWw Here is a nice highlight reel of Deacon Jones game action, complete with the Rocky Theme. My favorite is when he sacks the Cardinals QB while being blocked; just drags the guy to the ground with one hand. Amazing.

Deacon Jones...Datone Jones...both with ties to LA...just sayin! If he can cause that kind of havoc, he's a steal at #26.

Great vid of the Deacon. He was a big guy!

Check out the sack at 1:05...full blown body slam on the QB's shoulder, very similar to what Martin did! QB looks to be Cleveland #13, which would make him Frank Ryan.

For some good looks at the head slap, look starting at 1:25, three good examples in a row, the second one he's swinging with both arms.

[KYPack]

Yeah. He didn't seem as athletic as todays players. And I don't say that about everyone. I watched a LB, named Robertson from the 70's play, and he impressed me a lot. Reminded me of todays best, a young Urlacher maybe.

Always tough to compare eras. Some of the old timers would not make it in the modern game. There are DE's now that are as quick as but I've yet to see any that have Deac's foot speed. David Jones was a top flight DE who was as fast as many RB's and WR's. A high motor guy, he had a long career, he was still a pretty effective player after he came down from his physical peak.

One of the great NFL games I've ever seen is the Dec '67 play-off game in Milwaukee, Rams Packers. I finagled a ticket and saw Travis Williams run wild for the play-off victory for the Pack. The real highlight was watching Forrest Gregg and Deacon Jones go at it. They looked like a couple dinosaur's in one of the old monster movies. Deac tried every trick in the book, but Forrest had studied the film and had every punch countered. They went from start to finish and it was a brutal match-up. Advantage Gregg, but what a game.

I know a lot of you youngbloods think the NFL being played now is the ultimate, but over a span of time you get to see all the truly one of a kind players.

You want defensive ends, give me Deac, Willie Davis, and Dough Atkins and I will stop your read options or whatever else you got right in it's tracks.