Mom and Dad Are Getting Back Together Again

[woodbuck27]

I usually enjoy your posts. That being said, is any of this even English?

I apologize for any disappointment. More effort is often called for in terms of editing.

I'll try harder. Thanks.

PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

Comment woodbuck27:

Here's an article on the topic of more than Brett Favre and Forgiveness. You may interpret it differently in terms of who you are. How do you rate your Packer fan status RE: The Favre Issue? The article informed me, that whether you forgive or not? Has no relevant status on your Packer fan status. You may read this article without any challenge to become defensive. It's open ended and at the same time helpful.

Personally, I've come to believe that forgiveness is a choice of hope. One based in analysis that reflects a change in someone. Change that recommends in me hope for trust in another person that somehow offended me with intent to do so. I believe that forgiveness comes from sound observation of a change in an individual. That forgiveness must begin first in the offender, in terms of that person demonstrating his/her will to change. Forgiveness fails without a continuous effort to build trust.

I believe that forgiveness is far removed from false pride. Forgiveness is a process in it's most genuine sense. A process that begins with implied trust, that ultimately needs to be proven. Forgiveness is a dynamic process towards something better; maybe even something very good. A process that in time with measured success. Rewards us with real value. Repair can never survive, just one who wish's such. Forgiveness is a two-way street.

I hope that 'you' may gain something positive from this article. I enjoyed it and thus pass it along too Packerrats:

http://pocketdoppler.com/2013/06/14/sailing-the-seas-of-cheese-not-letting-him-live-rent-free/

Sailing the Seas of Cheese: Not Letting Him Live Rent Free

By: Kelly in Featured, Football, Green Bay Packers, Sailing the Seas of Cheese on June 14, 2013 6:15 PM

GO PACK GO !

[RashanGary]

Forgiveness can be for all, even those who dont deserve it. You forgive because all people error and all people can fall short of seeing it. Its a human thing to not be perfect.

I think you're confusing forgiveness with trust. I can easily forgive Favre. Hes a liar, a cheat and prone to acts of rage. Trusting him would require some serious change in character on his part.

AR and MM, now there are two guys i would trust. TT, i wouldnt, except to be a ruthless GM. That I would trust him on.

[woodbuck27]

Forgiveness can be for all, even those who dont deserve it. You forgive because all people error and all people can fall short of seeing it. Its a human thing to not be perfect.

I think you're confusing forgiveness with trust. I can easily forgive Favre. Hes a liar, a cheat and prone to acts of rage. Trusting him would require some serious change in character on his part.

AR and MM, now there are two guys i would trust. TT, i wouldnt, except to be a ruthless GM. That I would trust him on.

Read my response. I clearly state that forgiveness is a process that must begin with 'TRUST'. With 'a measured trust' in any person that is the offender, prior to any decision to forgive.

[RashanGary]

Read my response. I clearly state that forgiveness is a process that must begin with 'TRUST'. With 'a measured trust' in any person that is the offender, prior to any decision to forgive.

i need reasons for trust to trust. Forgiveness is free.

[Joemailman]

Forgiveness doesn't have to do with trust. I've forgiven both Favre and Thompson for what happened because I choose not to let such a negative situation be a focal point. I know people who were so mad at Thompson that they had, and still have, trouble being as enthusiastic a Packer fan as they were before 2008. I also know of people so mad at Favre that they can no longer appreciate the great moments Favre brought to the Packers. Both allowed a negative situation to linger in their lives because they wouldn't forgive the party they felt had acted improperly. My decision not to hold a grudge against Favre or Thompson doesn't really have anything to do with Favre or Thompson. It has everything with how I choose to approach things in my life.

[RashanGary]

Forgiveness doesn't have to do with trust. I've forgiven both Favre and Thompson for what happened because I choose not to let such a negative situation be a focal point. I know people who were so mad at Thompson that they had, and still have, trouble being as enthusiastic a Packer fan as they were before 2008. I also know of people so mad at Favre that they can no longer appreciate the great moments Favre brought to the Packers. Both allowed a negative situation to linger in their lives because they wouldn't forgive the party they felt had acted improperly. My decision not to hold a grudge against Favre or Thompson doesn't really have anything to do with Favre or Thompson. It has everything with how I choose to approach things in my life.

And with that, I will take my boys to breakfast. I need to learn to let go myself. We did have great memories with Favre. We have some great experiences right now with TT's team. It's not the "right" thing to do, but it certainly looks like a more enjoyable way to live.

[woodbuck27]

Forgiveness doesn't have to do with trust. I've forgiven both Favre and Thompson for what happened because I choose not to let such a negative situation be a focal point. I know people who were so mad at Thompson that they had, and still have, trouble being as enthusiastic a Packer fan as they were before 2008. I also know of people so mad at Favre that they can no longer appreciate the great moments Favre brought to the Packers. Both allowed a negative situation to linger in their lives because they wouldn't forgive the party they felt had acted improperly. My decision not to hold a grudge against Favre or Thompson doesn't really have anything to do with Favre or Thompson. It has everything with how I choose to approach things in my life.

When I maintain that trust is a strong factor in terms of any viable forgiveness. I mean in terms of someone continullly harming another.

Personally, I view forgiveness this way:

If any person hasn't shown any real effort of changing or demonstrating a real ability to support amends. Forgiveness is moot. It's my position that TRUST for him/her isn't warranted without seeing some change I might trust . I don't believe in blind forgiveness.

Hurt me once and shame on you. Hurt me twice and shame on me.

In terms of Brett Favre and Ted Thompson and any of that harangue. Quite frankly as a Green bay packer fan. I don't allow that issue to get me twisted all out of shape. To become over emotional over it in any self destructive negative sense. ie go to extreme anger or hatred.

This is about sports not any real life thing.

No matter what the term 'fan' may be derived from. I'm a fan that aims to be sensable and not a fanatic.

GO PACK GO !

[Zool]

This thread got all Matrix 3 on us.

[MJZiggy]

This thread got all Matrix 3 on us.

I was thinking more Oprah, but you go with what works for you...

[George Cumby]

I was thinking more Oprah, but you go with what works for you...

Lets do both.

Here's a visual for you:

Oprah wearing Carrie Ann Moss's skintight, black latex.

[Zool]

Lets do both.

Here's a visual for you:

Oprah wearing Carrie Ann Moss's skintight, black latex.

Well thanks for that.

[Iron Mike]

[mraynrand]

That's gonna put me off for a month, Mike. Negative repped

[RashanGary]

Did that really happen?