Rodgers and sack time.

[Upnorth]

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2013/05/exploring-causes-of-sack-pt-1.html?m=1

Very interesting article with a fairly obvious conclusion, that a major contributor to sacks is time (I'm oversimplying). Does anyone one know arod's average hold time on throwing plays?

[woodbuck27]

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2013...-pt-1.html?m=1

Very interesting article with a fairly obvious conclusion, that a major contributor to sacks is time (I'm oversimplying). Does anyone one know arod's average hold time on throwing plays?

Here's an article on that Upnorth. Unfortunately the Tabular Info. is missing but I may have some thing else. I have to check that out.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/07/signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

Later...

OK add this LINK and info but we're still not there. We need (pbmax maybe? / anyone else here please ) to tie this down:

http://www.thegridironpalace.com/forums/index.php?/topic/62469-signature-stat-snapshot-time-to-throw/

Ok in this LINK there's info. specific to Aaron Rodgers:

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/11/8/3618322/pff-michael-vick-is-holding-onto-the-ball-too-long

" It should come as no surprise that Michael Vick comes in 2nd in the NFL in time to throw at 3.12 seconds per dropback, trailing only rookie Russell Wilson. That Wilson is a rookie is no coincidence. Of the top 6 QBs in terms of time to throw, 3 are rookies and one, Cam Newton, is a second year player.

No top or elite QBs can be found in the top 10. Aaron Rodgers does come in at #11, but even he's closer to 2.7 seconds.

To take it a step further, PFF found that 2.5 seconds to throw the ball was a sort of optimal time for pass protectors." Fr. LINK immediately above.


GO PACK GO !

[woodbuck27]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/05/29/examining-pressure-qb-play/

Examining Pressure: QB Play

Steve Palazzolo | May 29, 2013

When Facing Any Pressure

Now who are the best quarterbacks when pressured?

(Aaron) Rodgers is the best in the league when under heat and it’s not all that close. It’s certainly impressive to see a number of rookies on this list despite having the small sample of only one season under their belt. Notice the quick drop-offs into negative PFF grades – pressure has a major effect on the quarterback."

PACKERS !

[pbmax]

He definitely contributes to the team total for sacks. But it isn't as bad as it was in 2009.

[pittstang5]

This makes me think of something else too. I wonder how many times Arod took a sack on 3rd down and moved them out of FG range or had he just thrown it way, turned a 35 yard FG attempt into a 45 or longer attempt.

[Tony Oday]

Lol field goal range...take the sack and punt Crosby Sucks.

[RashanGary]

This makes me think of something else too. I wonder how many times Arod took a sack on 3rd down and moved them out of FG range or had he just thrown it way, turned a 35 yard FG attempt into a 45 or longer attempt.

Honestly, I don't think he does that very often. I think he plays good situation football. Just going off memory, I think AR plays smart when we're in field goal range, smart in the redzone, smart between the 20's, smart with time, smart in just about every way a player can be smart.

[Joemailman]

Honestly, I don't think he does that very often. I think he plays good situation football. Just going off memory, I think AR plays smart when we're in field goal range, smart in the redzone, smart between the 20's, smart with time, smart in just about every way a player can be smart.

He's certainly smart when the Packers are in scoring range. But there are times he could be smarter on 1st and 2nd down when he could avoid a sack by throwing the ball away or dumping it off to a back. I don't mind the sacks on 3rd down so much because there is no point dumping the ball off for a gain that is short of the 1st down. There are times though where a dumpoff is a good play that can create good down and distance rather than taking a sack which results in 3rd and long.

[RashanGary]

He's certainly smart when the Packers are in scoring range. But there are times he could be smarter on 1st and 2nd down when he could avoid a sack by throwing the ball away or dumping it off to a back. I don't mind the sacks on 3rd down so much because there is no point dumping the ball off for a gain that is short of the 1st down. There are times though where a dumpoff is a good play that can create good down and distance rather than taking a sack which results in 3rd and long.

I could definitely see slight modification to his 1st and 2nd down (non-scoring range) plays. As he turns 30, I think he should really make an effort to get rid of the ball quicker.

[RashanGary]

And we all talk about Rodgers weapons, but let's face it, there were only maybe 2 years of Favre's career that he had starting running backs similar to Rodgers the last 2 or 3 years. A running game is just as big of a deal, if not bigger than the 4th and 5th receiving options.

A part of AR getting rid of the ball quicker is going to be running the ball so defenses have to change their pass-aggressive looks at least some of the time. Hopefully the running game helps on 1st and 2nd down, non-scoring plays.

[Carolina_Packer]

And we all talk about Rodgers weapons, but let's face it, there were only maybe 2 years of Favre's career that he had starting running backs similar to Rodgers the last 2 or 3 years. A running game is just as big of a deal, if not bigger than the 4th and 5th receiving options.

A part of AR getting rid of the ball quicker is going to be running the ball so defenses have to change their pass-aggressive looks at least some of the time. Hopefully the running game helps on 1st and 2nd down, non-scoring plays.

Yeah, think how much differently the down and distance situation could be improved if the Pack can establish an effective ground game. Besides down and distance, it's how the defense has to bring additional help to respect the run instead of committing so much to obvious pass pro. If that can free up a receiver to get a one on one, that will certainly help. Also, if Harris or Franklin (presumably both 3rd down change of pace backs) could help in the 3rd and short, check down situations where A-Rod needs to get rid of it to avoid the rush.

[mraynrand]

And we all talk about Rodgers weapons, but let's face it, there were only maybe 2 years of Favre's career that he had starting running backs similar to Rodgers the last 2 or 3 years. A running game is just as big of a deal, if not bigger than the 4th and 5th receiving options.

QFT. It's a testament to how big a shadow Favre cast that an enormous weapon like Ahman Green is hardly talked about anymore. For a stretch of about 5 years, Green was in the top 3 backs with yards from scrimmage, right up there with LT from San Diego and whatchamaface* from KC.



*Priest Holmes

[woodbuck27]

And we all talk about Rodgers weapons, but let's face it, there were only maybe 2 years of Favre's career that he had starting running backs similar to Rodgers the last 2 or 3 years. A running game is just as big of a deal, if not bigger than the 4th and 5th receiving options.

A part of AR getting rid of the ball quicker is going to be running the ball so defenses have to change their pass-aggressive looks at least some of the time. Hopefully the running game helps on 1st and 2nd down, non-scoring plays.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/nfl-today-the-golden-age-the-ground-game/22693/

NFL Today: The Golden Age Of The Ground Game

Cold, Hard Football Facts for May 09, 2013

" But those same rules that have made it so easy to pass the ball have also opened up things underneath for running backs, too. Much like air superiority allowed Allied infantry in World War II or the Gulf War to dominate the battlefield below, passing superiority has given running backs a chance to overrun defenses like never before.

In fact, it’s never been easier to run the football than it is today. Conversely, it's never been tougher to play run defense." Fr. LINK above

GO PACKERS !

[woodbuck27]

QFT. It's a testament to how big a shadow Favre cast that an enormous weapon like Ahman Green is hardly talked about anymore. For a stretch of about 5 years, Green was in the top 3 backs with yards from scrimmage, right up there with LT from San Diego and whatchamaface* from KC.



*Priest Holmes

Is it possible that the way that Ahman Green flamed out in Houston may have been a factor in him (possibly) being somewhat or forgotten? I loved the Packer 'O' with Ahman Green operating in high gear.

PACKERS!

[cheesner]

QFT. It's a testament to how big a shadow Favre cast that an enormous weapon like Ahman Green is hardly talked about anymore. For a stretch of about 5 years, Green was in the top 3 backs with yards from scrimmage, right up there with LT from San Diego and whatchamaface* from KC.



*Priest Holmes

And there was also very effective Dorsey Levens and an above average Edgar Bennet. Neither superstars, but all 3 better than we have had since.