So... Aaron Hernandez

[denverYooper]

From the reports, they didn't give him any leeway at all. Didn't give him an opportunity to turn himself in, just showing up and arresting him. He was also cuffed with no shirt on, and they just pulled a t-shirt over his head and arms (which were cuffed behind his back).

Methinks they're damn pissed about the destroying of the evidence.

They were probably more pissed that the idiot caused such a huge problem for their beloved Patriots.

[woodbuck27]

Some pretty big salary cap ramifications with his release. As it stands, they take at least a $7.5M hit for 2014, maybe as much as $8.6 and $4M for 2013. They'll likely try to recover at least part of that.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/pats-will-take-at-least-a-7-5-million-cap-charge-for-hernandez-in-2014/

In almost related news, a Brown's rookie has been charged with attempted murder!
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...empted-murder-

Re: The Pat's and their former TE Aaron Hernandez:

This is a bold and smart 'no nonsense' move by the New England Patriots that have the power to know a lot more about this case then the general public and media.

From the news release this part is significant:

" The broader question, which we’ll address separately, is that the Patriots made this move without caring about the financial or cap consequences." FR. ***

*** http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...andez-in-2014/

Comment woodbuck27:

What almost seems lost in this story is that this involves a murder investigation. This involves allegations of past misconduct on behalf of Aaron Hernandez; but it got much worse for Aaron Hernandez. A man he was in the company of, 27 year old Odin Lloyd. Died brutally, within a short window of time from Aaron Hernandez's time with Odin Lloyd.

Aaron Hernandez, as of this time hasn't been named as a suspect in the Odin Lloyd murder case.

It was strongly rumored that Aaron Hernandez would be arrested for a charge of obstruction of justice.

This morning at a reported time of around 8:47 AM ET. After more than (9) days after the discovery of Odin Lloyd's body. After much police activity in and around Aaron Hernandez's property. Aaron Hernandez was arrested.

Aaron Hernandez wasn't informed by his legal team that he would 'in fact' be arrested. His legal team was left out of the loop in this arrest. This 'if indeed a fact' could have serious legal implications for Aaron Hernandez. Specifically in terms of the arrest appearing to be an arrest for more than obstruction of justice. Otherwise why was Aaron Hernandez not formally prepared for this arrest.

Within a very short time after that arrest. The New England Patriots released Aaron Hernandez. Were the New England Patriots informed that Aaron Hernandez would be arrested? At this time the answer to that would be just a guess.

So what's next?

Aaron Hernandez has been processed and he'll soon be arraigned in court and formally charged.

[hoosier]

Hey guys, I heard the Pats released Hernandez!

What do think the chances are TT kicks the old tires on this one?

[Guiness]

What do think the chances are TT kicks the old tires on this one?

*Guiness scans horizon* Who's that out in left field?
MJZiggy responds "It's Hoosier, dear"

[woodbuck27]

What do think the chances are TT kicks the old tires on this one?

ZERO.

ZERO X's ZERO.

[woodbuck27]

*Guiness scans horizon* Who's that out in left field?
MJZiggy responds "It's Hoosier, dear"

ahh hoosier your off the hook.

Your small 'h' name was spelled incorrectly.

I'm sure that you are 'a Dear'. Your Packerrats 'legal team' has your back.

[hoosier]

*Guiness scans horizon* Who's that out in left field?
MJZiggy responds "It's Hoosier, dear"

Did I forget to attach the sarcasm icon to my post?

The Pats's quick trigger in releasing him = strategy for recouping part of signing bonus before it all finds its way into his defense teams pockets.

[Smidgeon]

Hey, guys and gals. I hate to be the one to drop the bombshell, but the Patriots just released Hernandez.

[woodbuck27]

Did I forget to attach the sarcasm icon to my post?

The Pats's quick trigger in releasing him = strategy for recouping part of signing bonus before it all finds its way into his defense teams pockets.

Redemption is sweet.

[ThunderDan]

What do think the chances are TT kicks the old tires on this one?

Better bring him in. He averages over 11 yards per catch and a TD every 10 catches.

[Fritz]

If he ever sees the football field again, it likely will be in a prison yard.

Not sounding good. But, of course, innocent til proven guilty and all that.

[woodbuck27]

If he ever sees the football field again, it likely will be in a prison yard.

Not sounding good. But, of course, innocent til proven guilty and all that.

Let's determine what he's charged with!? It looks serious right now, based on the actual matter of the arrest; and his legal team left out of the loop and that arrest.

The police moved carefully and deliberately and it's got to be more than an obstruction of justice charge. It's going to be a serious charge.

Aaron Hernandez's arraignment is set for today ... Wed. 26 June, 2013 @ 2 PM EST

[woodbuck27]

If he ever sees the football field again, it likely will be in a prison yard.

Not sounding good. But, of course, innocent til proven guilty and all that.

Here's a statement from the new England Patriots fr. ***:

*** http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...drops-him?lite

"A young man was murdered last week and we extend our sympathies to the family and friends who mourn his loss. Words cannot express the disappointment we feel knowing that one of our players was arrested as a result of this investigation. We realize that law enforcement investigations into this matter are ongoing. We support their efforts and respect the process. At this time, we believe this transaction is simply the right thing to do." a statement from the team (The New England Patriots) read.

Comment woodbuck27:

This isn't 'an idiot' or joking matter.

[hoosier]

Speculation about the salary cap implications of cutting Hernandez, with the caveat that, if confused, be sure to cover all bases.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-e...ting-hernandez

Last summer, the Patriots gave him a five-year contract worth $40 million. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus. At this point, when looking solely at signing bonus and base salaries, Hernandez has earned $9.79 million of the extension.

His new salary-cap charge in 2013 is just over $5 million, an increase of about $1 million, league sources told ESPN. For 2014, that charge will be $7.5 million, which is the remaining pro-ration of his signing bonus.

It’s unclear what kind of communication, if any, the Patriots had with the NFL regarding Hernandez’s contract over the past nine days. By releasing Hernandez on Wednesday, the Patriots appear to have waived all rights to recoup any bonus money or salary through the CBA.

One other factor to consider: A club can recover bonus money and avoid a cap hit if a player violates one of the league's personal conduct policies or defaults on contract language. It’s possible the Patriots have talked to the NFL about this possibility, but that’s unknown at this point.

[Pugger]

I wish Finley had a killer instinct.

But not this kind of killer instinct. Finley might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would become involved in a murder.