So... Aaron Hernandez

[Patler]

People who regularly cover the criminal courts get a lot of exposure to people in the same exact situation. To at least some of them, Hernandez apparently seemed to react differently than what they have come to expect. That was all I wanted to bring up.

I have no clue what kind of person he is, but if he killed Lloyd in the manner and for the reasons speculated, and/or if he killed the two others in 2012 that he is being investigated for, I doubt that I will lose much sleep worrying about how miserable his life will be in prison.

[RashanGary]

People who regularly cover the criminal courts get a lot of exposure to people in the same exact situation. To at least some of them, Hernandez apparently seemed to react differently than what they have come to expect. That was all I wanted to bring up.

I have no clue what kind of person he is, but if he killed Lloyd in the manner and for the reasons speculated, and/or if he killed the two others in 2012 that he is being investigated for, I doubt that I will lose much sleep worrying about how miserable his life will be in prison.

Or maybe they're sensationalizing the trial, making Hernandez appear to be void of all human emotion.


I shared my hunch that he's not a sociopath and my opinion that it's sad to see people ruin their lives and other people's lives. I'll lose about the same amount of sleep worrying about whether you're on the same page as me as you lose worrying about the well being of Aaron Hernandez' soul.

[RashanGary]

If you really believe all this, then you really are a clueless tool.

Yeah, our military people are the good guys. The guys we kill are bad. Keep on believing that, idiot.

It's the realities of war, same as killing in certain parts of our country is realities of life. People do what they have to do and sometimes they do more than what they have to do when they feel pressured, desperate or maybe they just want to shock and awe somebody, you know, make a point to get out of the way, right. Intimidation is a power tool. It gets a point across. Death is the ultimate threat. It usually gets the point across. Not always, but usually.

[RashanGary]

On August 6, 1945, during World War II (1939-45), an American B-29 bomber dropped the world’s first deployed atomic bomb over the Japanese city of Hiroshima. The explosion wiped out 90 percent of the city and immediately killed 80,000 people; tens of thousands more would later die of radiation exposure. Three days later, a second B-29 dropped another A-bomb on Nagasaki, killing an estimated 40,000 people. Japan's Emperor Hirohito announced his country's unconditional surrender in World War II in a radio address on August 15, citing the devastating power of "a new and most cruel bomb."


I'm sure there were no babies, moms, dads, big brothers, little sisters, friends, family, grandparents in that 80,000 dead. Anyone who thinks the United States doesn't kill innocent lives to get their point across is diluted. We could have just as easily talked to Japan and given them whatever they wanted from us. That's not what happened. Innocent people died in retaliation. There are plenty of countries that stay completely out of war, stay neutral. We're not one of them. We're one of the extreme superpowers that fights to the death for what we have.

[RashanGary]

Maybe you can lose some sleep for the dead babies of Heroshema and Nagasaki, Patler? Probably not. They deserved it for crossing us. But I'll bet you celebrate every military holiday where the poor soldiers died for your cause. For fucks sake, get some perspective, people.

[MadtownPacker]

I have to agree with JH, cuz it takes one to know one.

But I think JH is trying to say that hernandez isn't a stone cold killer. He is just a dumb, lost, little boy pretending to be a hardcore gangsta.

[Cheesehead Craig]

JH - You're getting a bit riled up here. Perhaps just take a few hours away from the computer.

[Joemailman]

Fans who bought an Aaron Hernandez jersey at the Patriots Pro Shop will be allowed to exchange it for a jersey of comparable value free of charge.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ersey-exchange

[hoosier]

Fans who bought an Aaron Hernandez jersey at the Patriots Pro Shop will be allowed to exchange it for a jersey of comparable value free of charge.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ersey-exchange

Comparable value then or now?

[3irty1]

I'm inclined to agree with JH here in terms of world perspective but I don't feel comfortable making a character judgement on Hernandez or what he deserves other than to lose his freedom if he's in fact guilty. This isn't a ghetto kid from the wire, he's had a network of coaches and teammates as a support group for years. He's had college and opportunity. He's had focus, meaning, things to look forward to, and professional success. Maybe he's got no social conscience, maybe he's just unfathomably stupid. I'm not even sure which is worse. Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

Again though I suspect roid rage. I'm of the sort that believes or wants to believe that it takes a chemical imbalance to do this kind of thing. The kind of chemical imbalance that comes from a professional sport where in all reality PED's are probably near mandatory to play the game. I hope Goodell gets stuck holding this shit bomb.

[Joemailman]

Comparable value then or now?

If you bought a replica jersey with silk screen numbers, you're probably not going to get an authentic jersey with embroidered numbers. I suspect that's what they meant.

[Guiness]

Interesting to me is how it is looking like these guys were making a habit of this, with the police linking 2 other killings to them, and a shooting in Florida, but they seem to be incredibly inept at it. Starting with how easily the body was found...leaving spent shell casings in rental cars? Using a gun that there is a picture of you holding floating around the internet?

[Freak Out]

Nobody said they were smart.

[Bossman641]

I'm inclined to agree with JH here in terms of world perspective but I don't feel comfortable making a character judgement on Hernandez or what he deserves other than to lose his freedom if he's in fact guilty. This isn't a ghetto kid from the wire, he's had a network of coaches and teammates as a support group for years. He's had college and opportunity. He's had focus, meaning, things to look forward to, and professional success. Maybe he's got no social conscience, maybe he's just unfathomably stupid. I'm not even sure which is worse. Go directly to jail, do not collect $200.

Again though I suspect roid rage. I'm of the sort that believes or wants to believe that it takes a chemical imbalance to do this kind of thing. The kind of chemical imbalance that comes from a professional sport where in all reality PED's are probably near mandatory to play the game. I hope Goodell gets stuck holding this shit bomb.

I've seen you make this type of comment twice now. Forgive my ignorance as I haven't closely followed the PED discussion between the league and the NFLPA, but isn't the NFLPA balking on PED testing because of distrust in Goodell stemming from the bounty fiasco?

My understanding was that the league had agreed to third party arbitrators regarding appeals of positive PED tests but the NFLPA was trying to push for third party arbitrators of all appeals - disciplinary, etc. You can argue that pushback is warranted after Bountygate, but I'm just wondering which of the league's PED testing suggestions you are in disagreement with. Again, sorry to go off topic but I'm looking for more information.

[cheesner]

Being hispanic, being strong, being young, being an athlete, you hope for his sake he'll become the leader or at least a member of one of the groups of people who aren't psychopathic. In that case, he'll have protection from the population of psychopathic loners.

Guy on NFL radio said the opposite is true. He will be a marked man. The guy who kicks his butt will rise in esteem throughout the prison. There will be lots of psycho wanting to move up the pecking order by taking a famous athelete down to size. Guy says, he will likely be in soliatary and have little contact with other prisoners for his own safety.