So... Aaron Hernandez

[QBME]

Man, you've got some good eyes.

Never spotted that one before.

Can you imagine the partying that went on shooting this flick?

I can only try to imagine. It's urban legend status in these parts.

[woodbuck27]

Just a guess on my part, too, but I read (or heard, can't remember which) a reporters comments that even the cops and court room personnel were surprised at his total lack of emotion. One described him as seemingly detached from what was going on.

We might just be scratching the surface on his inner workings.

Watching the court proceedings that day the most shocking thing to me was a complete lack of emotion on Aaron Hernandez's part. He acted utterly emotionless.

[George Cumby]

Watching the court proceedings that day the most shocking thing to me was a complete lack of emotion on Aaron Hernandez's part. He acted utterly emotionless.

Sounds sociopathic.

[pbmax]

Urban Meyer did all he could do for people and players. He was a father figure to all and cannot be held responsible for murders committed by a former player he tried to help. This is obvious and people saying Urban is at fault are clearly delusional*.

Though perhaps Urban has the same problem as Hernandez, that he chooses his company poorly:

Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 12h
Whoa. RT @WesleyLowery: Aaron Hernandez is one of 41 members of 2008 Florida football team that has been arrested. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/sp...nted=all&_r=1&


* Not many people are saying this, though I suppose the brave drunks on Twitter and YouTube might be. It is, however, a convenient pivot point for the Meyer family, to plead innocent of a charge no sensible person is making.

[run pMc]

Though perhaps Urban has the same problem as Hernandez, that he chooses his company poorly:

Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 12h
Whoa. RT @WesleyLowery: Aaron Hernandez is one of 41 members of 2008 Florida football team that has been arrested. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/sp...nted=all&_r=1&

According to the story, Cam Newton, Chris Rainey, Percy Harvin, and Janoris Jenkins were on that roster. Some challenging personalities. I wonder how the arrest #'s stack up with other top programs (Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Oregon).

[pbmax]

According to the story, Cam Newton, Chris Rainey, Percy Harvin, and Janoris Jenkins were on that roster. Some challenging personalities. I wonder how the arrest #'s stack up with other top programs (Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Oregon).

Yeah, there is very little context which makes it of limited use. Plus among those 41 arrests are drunk and disorderly charges and other small bore things (though several charges are quite serious). And a couple of players doubled their pleasure.

However, Meyer did have a noteworthy string of problems in the team over two years and the local paper did keep a database of arrests and run-ins with the law during that time. I remember the coverage of it at the time and it was eventually overshadowed by the end of the Tebow era and his strange exit from Florida. So he very much oversaw a spike in trouble. And during the middle of that string was when he began to consider retirement.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, there is very little context which makes it of limited use. Plus among those 41 arrests are drunk and disorderly charges and other small bore things (though several charges are quite serious). And a couple of players doubled their pleasure.

However, Meyer did have a noteworthy string of problems in the team over two years and the local paper did keep a database of arrests and run-ins with the law during that time. I remember the coverage of it at the time and it was eventually overshadowed by the end of the Tebow era and his strange exit from Florida. So he very much oversaw a spike in trouble. And during the middle of that string was when he began to consider retirement.

When in trouble, just fake an illness! If you are on the political side of the press, they will cover for you every time! Just make sure you stay in their good graces.

[MadScientist]

Yeah, there is very little context which makes it of limited use. Plus among those 41 arrests are drunk and disorderly charges and other small bore things (though several charges are quite serious). And a couple of players doubled their pleasure.

However, Meyer did have a noteworthy string of problems in the team over two years and the local paper did keep a database of arrests and run-ins with the law during that time. I remember the coverage of it at the time and it was eventually overshadowed by the end of the Tebow era and his strange exit from Florida. So he very much oversaw a spike in trouble. And during the middle of that string was when he began to consider retirement.

I think this bit at the end of the article is most telling:

Jenkins, the cornerback, eventually left Florida for North Alabama after Meyer’s successor, Will Muschamp, dismissed him from the team after marijuana arrests. Several months later, Jenkins spoke to The Orlando Sentinel about his dismissal.

“If Coach Meyer were still coaching, I’d still be playing for the Gators,” he was quoted as saying. “Coach Meyer knows what it takes to win.”

The higher the tolerance for illegal behavior the more of it there will be, and the seriousness will also increase. No, I'm not saying allowing pot-heads a pass will get you a murderer on the team, but it will get you more arrests and more trouble than just pot.

It also shows that bible-study is not an indicator of a reformed troublemaker.

[mraynrand]

It also shows that bible-study is not an indicator of a reformed troublemaker.

It helps if you study more than just the cover.

[Guiness]

It helps if you study more than just the cover.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

Oh, wrong book? How about
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

[Zool]

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

Oh, wrong book? How about
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Call me Ishmael

[pbmax]

It helps if you study more than just the cover.

I thought Bible study WAS the cover.


Police Detective: Where were you last night around 3 AM?

Florida Player: Bible Study with Coach!

[pbmax]

Looks like the Police got one guy to flip. Roger Cossack on Mike and Mike also mentioned that both this guy and the other buddy in the car are facing far less serious charges than Hernandez. This Tweety bird is on the hook for accessory after the fact, and the other is on the hook for weapons charges. Only Hernandez faces murder/manslaughter/homicide charges.

If they have gotten both to flip, he is in a world of hurt.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/10/affidavit-confirms-ortiz-flipped-on-hernandez-told-them-the-whole-story/

[Cheesehead Craig]

Hernandez wanted to be a tough-guy thug, congrats there buddy, now you're a tough-guy thug

[Joemailman]

Pouncey brothers need some better headgear: