Trading a 1ST ROUND PICK for a Coach ???

[Bretsky]

Curious if anybody would be willing to do what just occured in the NBA. It was a hot debate on NFL Radio Today.

Let's say your coach sux; let's say you have a Jack Del Rio....sub par type coach.

Would you give up a 1st round pick for a coach, if if so what ones would you trade for ?

On NFL Network Ross Tucker listed Coughlin, McCarthy, Hoody Genius, and Tomlin as the four he'd trade a 1st round pick for

He was right on the border with the Harbaraughs


THOUGHTS ?????????????????????????

[Pugger]

Interesting question but I can't see any of the teams that now employ any of these coaches - except maybe NYG because Coughlin is getting a little long in the tooth - that would be interested in making such a trade.

[Guiness]

Interesting question but I can't see any of the teams that now employ any of these coaches - except maybe NYG because Coughlin is getting a little long in the tooth - that would be interested in making such a trade.

Yup...which I think re-inforces that they are worth it.

[Willard]

The Raiders got a 1st and 2nd in 2002, a first in 2003, a second in 2004, cash, and a bag of Cool Ranch Doritos from the Bucs for Jon Gruden. Then Gruden beat Oakland in the Super Bowl the next year. Wild and wacky stuff!

[woodbuck27]

Yup...which I think re-inforces that they are worth it.

Ever since you pointing this out to me a few weeks ago Guiness RE: The Green Bay Packers **Mt. Rushmore and Vince Lombardi being a 'must have'.

I've thought hard about the importance of the coach even with the most talented men on a team roster.

I agree with you.



The Green Bay Packers Vince Lombardi is Numero Uno.

Today my Packers Mt. Rushmore wouldn't be exactly as the fans made it but rather:

Vince Lombardi; ** Don Hutson; Bart Starr and Brett Favre



** Don Hutson

That guy should not have been overlooked.

GO PACK GO !

Living and Learning.

[Pugger]

If you're gonna have Vince up there you really can't ignore that other HC who won a bunch of titles either.

[Joemailman]

Somewhat off topic, but this reminds me that back in 1992, the Packers had to give the 49ers a 2nd round pick before the 49ers would release Holmgren. It was 1 of 2 2nd round picks the Packers had received for Tim Harris. The 49ers were claiming the Packers had concealed some information about Harris when the trade was made. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/01/12/sp...-gain-too.html

How Holmgren must have relished knocking the Forty Whiners out of the playoffs 1995-1997 after that!

[mraynrand]

Can we get a conditional seventh round pick for Capers?

[3irty1]

Curious if anybody would be willing to do what just occured in the NBA. It was a hot debate on NFL Radio Today.

Let's say your coach sux; let's say you have a Jack Del Rio....sub par type coach.

Would you give up a 1st round pick for a coach, if if so what ones would you trade for ?

On NFL Network Ross Tucker listed Coughlin, McCarthy, Hoody Genius, and Tomlin as the four he'd trade a 1st round pick for

He was right on the border with the Harbaraughs


THOUGHTS ?????????????????????????

Add Sean Payton to that list for me as guys I'd easily trade a 1st for. There are probably others that are worth it. Definitely some GM's that are worth a first as well. Or I'm possibly undervaluing a 1st round pick because the last 3 of ours were all out for the season last year.

[hoosier]

Hard not to include John Harbaugh in that group. The Raven team he has taken to the AFC championship game twice in a row has not been the most talented (or even healthy) team in the conference. The only possible strike against John is his filial connection to Jim.

[Upnorth]

Can we get a conditional seventh round pick for Capers?

Only if you package in Slocum on a Wednesday.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Only if you package in Slocum on a Wednesday.

Repped for geniusness.

[woodbuck27]

If you're gonna have Vince up there you really can't ignore that other HC who won a bunch of titles either.

You take any 'Top Four ' that 'you' may choose.

[pbmax]

After some consideration, I want to say yes, in some circumstances I would. Holmgren is the perfect example.

But the Clippers just did it. And by rule that makes it not just a bad idea, but possible one that will haunt future generations. Even Danny Manning's kids have a limp from his knee injury.

[Smeefers]

Coaches can only do so much. Teams are bad normally due to poor front office moves. Look at the Dolphins. They had Don Shula, they had Jimmy Johnson and even with Dan Marino they couldn't do much in the post season.

I suppose what I'm saying is that it takes the whole package to even get a chance at a deep playoff run but the most important part is the players. If I'm a team in need of improving, I wouldn't want to give up a shot at a great player. If I'm a team that has a great coach, one player isn't going to entice me enough to let a great coach go. What it would take for me to give up a great coach would be much more than a poor team would be willing to give up.

Gah, I feel like I'm trying to bite my own ear in explaining my position.

So no. No, I would not trade a coach for a 1st rounder.