Who's Gonna Poop the Bed?

[Joemailman]

Someone remind me who played RT in KC after Sherrod went down? Looking at the game book http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamece...C_Gamebook.pdf the only other OL substitution is EDS. Did he plat RT, or did he come in at RG and Sitton slid outside?

I'm pretty sure Lang moved to RT and EDS came in at LG.

[pbmax]

As even more evidence of that, I was reminded over the weekend toward the end of the year, just a bit before he broke his leg, Sherrod and Newhouse alternated at LT during one game. The next week they went back to Newhouse starting and playing full time. That was Sherrod's chance, because Newhouse was just sort of hanging on. Apparently, the coaches still thought Newhouse was the better option then.

You sure that was regular season? Because the alternating regular season combo I remember was Clifton and Newhouse. Prior to his injury, Sherrod was the RT after Bulaga went down. They would have had to be alternating prior to the Washington (EDIT: should read KC) game.

EDIT: My memory is terrible. Atlanta was a Week 5 opponent and that is the game someone mentioned as Sherrod's first action at RT. He was back at RT for KC in Week 15.

OK, yes Atlanta game was first appearance at RT. M3 says he plays well in 2nd half after a poor start in first series. http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

It was a tossup on the 14th of October, according to McGinn about whether Bulaga would be back at RT versus the Rams, but given that Sherrod is recorded as having no starts, I surmise that Bulaga came back the week after Clifton was lost in the Atlanta game.

[pbmax]

Here's the writeup on Sherrod from the NFL Draft Tracker 2011:


I'm thinking that TT messed up drafting him in the 1st round.

An early Day 3 grade would have been the 4th round in 2011? I remember questions about right versus left, elite versus adequate starter and questions about his strength. I don't recall anyone at the time that thought he was a fourth (or even third) round talent.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Here's the link...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/derek-sherrod?id=2495230

[Upnorth]

Speaking of right tackle know who I bet would win? Eric Winston
He is a relatively cheap acquisition prior to TC and could anchor the right for four years easy

[pbmax]

Here's the link...

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profil...rod?id=2495230

Well, that draft grader could turn out to have been correct. However, his resume (number of starts, years started, honors and competition in the SEC) and frankly his size seem almost impossible to imagine him falling into the fourth round. But I have been ultra wrong about the draft before.

As it was, I went to bed the night of his draft thinking he was no worse than a second round graded LT and would work out like Clifton did.

[Guiness]

You sure that was regular season? Because the alternating regular season combo I remember was Clifton and Newhouse. Prior to his injury, Sherrod was the RT after Bulaga went down. They would have had to be alternating prior to the Washington (EDIT: should read KC) game.

It apparently did happen - from the Packers bio on Sherrod

Vs. Oakland (Dec. 11): Received increased reps during the practice week and saw action as part of a rotation with Newhouse at LT. Helped block for an offense that racked up 391 yards in a 46-16 win…

A rotation at LT? Never heard of that before, and don't remember it *shrug* but seems like that's what happened. That was the week before the KC game.

[Guiness]

Speaking of right tackle know who I bet would win? Eric Winston
He is a relatively cheap acquisition prior to TC and could anchor the right for four years easy

Keep beating that drum buddy!

[Joemailman]

It apparently did happen - from the Packers bio on Sherrod



A rotation at LT? Never heard of that before, and don't remember it *shrug* but seems like that's what happened. That was the week before the KC game.

The game was 31-0 at halftime. Newhouse started. They probably put Sherrod in at some point. Not sure it was actually a rotation.

[Bretsky]

Keep beating that drum buddy!

I'd be all about Winston; he's be a great addition and I've heard him enough on NFL Network to know he has a great work ethic, attitude, and is a great leader.

With that being said, signing Eric Winston at the expense of a less talented and cheaper young guy who might develop represents everything ANTI TT.

Aint's gonna happen

[Bretsky]

to defend the pick of Justine.......nearly all of the projections I saw as a wanna be draft GM had him projected to go at the top of round 2 .....and noted he cuold slip into round one since teams often have the need at OT

[pbmax]

I have apparently blocked out large segments of the 2011 season out of my mind. 2005 I understand, but 2011 they were 15-1. I really need to get the Game Rewind.

[Joemailman]

to defend the pick of Justine.......nearly all of the projections I saw as a wanna be draft GM had him projected to go at the top of round 2 .....and noted he cuold slip into round one since teams often have the need at OT

I assume you mean Sherry. Your recollection is right though. I actually thought the Bears were going to take Sherrod, and the Packers would end up with Carimi. Glad that didn't happen. At least this way, unlike the Bears, there's still a chance the Packers get something out of that pick

[Upnorth]

Is it just me or does TT do better at drafting the further he gets from the line? It seems like he has put more picks into DL and OL than anywhere else and has less to show for it.

[Upnorth]

Okay so here goes with TT's ol and dl draft history,

2005
5a. JUNIUS COSTON, C, North Carolina A&T, 143
6a. MICHAEL MONTGOMERY, DE, Texas A&M, 180
7b. WILLIAM WHITTICKER, G, Michigan State, 246

2006
2a. DARYN COLLEDGE, T/G, Boise State, 47
3b. JASON SPITZ, G/C, Louisville, 75
5b. TONY MOLL, T, Nevada, 165
6a. JOHNNY JOLLY, DT, Texas A&M, 183
7. DAVE TOLLEFSON, DE, Northwest Missouri State, 253

2007
1. JUSTIN HARRELL, DT, Tennessee, 16
4. ALLEN BARBRE, T/G, Missouri Southern St, 119

2008
4a. JEREMY THOMPSON, DE, Wake Forest, 102
4b. JOSH SITTON, G, Central Florida, 135
5. BRENO GIACOMINI, T, Louisville, 150

2009
1a. B.J. RAJI, NT, Boston College, 9
4. T.J. LANG, G/T, Eastern Michigan, 109
6a. JARIUS WYNN, DE, Georgia, 182

2010
1. BRYAN BULAGA, T, Iowa, 23
2. MIKE NEAL, DE, Purdue, 56
7. C.J. WILSON, DE, East Carolina, 230

2011
1. DEREK SHERROD, T, Mississippi State, 32
7b. LAWRENCE GUY, DE, Arizona State, 233

So I see 11 OL and 10 DL
2005 was a writeoff
2006 got College and Jolly, Jolly being a big hit in the 7th round
2007 was maybe Barbre
2008 was Sitton and maybe Giacomini
2009 was Raji and Lang
2010 Was Bulaga and Wilson (some would argue for Neal)
2011 was Sherrod
So out of 21 tries he got 10 including 2 marginal picks. 50% isn’t that bad for drafting, I guess I was wrong on his sucsess at the Line.