Neal, Sherrod, Harris (And Others) On PUP List

[Maxie the Taxi]

Neal and Hayward hurt themselves training on their own and were surprise injuries

From: http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2013/07/28/s...training-camp/

Seriously, how does something like this happen? These players are in camp, surrounded by a thousand coaches of every stripe. Plus, the Packers have a physical conditioning and weight room coach. How the hell do they get hurt "training on their own?"

[pbmax]

They had much of the Spring and most of the Summer off. Even if you stayed in town for the offseason program, you were off for much of June and July.

[Fritz]

From: http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2013/07/28/s...training-camp/

Seriously, how does something like this happen? These players are in camp, surrounded by a thousand coaches of every stripe. Plus, the Packers have a physical conditioning and weight room coach. How the hell do they get hurt "training on their own?"

Maybe it was better in the old days when guys in the offseason would get a job in a meat-packing plant, and smoke and drink at night and on weekends.

Back in them days, training camp was held to whip those boys into shape.

Now, they want to come in to camp in shape, but somehow they hurt themselves working out.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Now, they want to come in to camp in shape, but somehow they hurt themselves working out.

I understood these guys got hurt working on on their own in camp. Maybe I misunderstood.

Funny, I remember seeing film of Max McGee and Paul Hornung in the locker room after a game...smoking! I think Max and Paul never spent much time in the weight room. Paul used to run up the stadium stairs and Max just used to run around. They were natural athletes.

[Fritz]

These guys are too, but there's so much more money involved now. Paul Hornung, with those lack-of-practice habits and the smoking after games, would get killed today. Heck, any of those old teams would. Just look at the weights the offensive and defensive lines were listed at.

Today, Hornung would be buff and trained up. He'd do just fine, though running backs are not as sexy as they used to be. Other than AP. Who is the best running back I have ever seen, and I've been watching great running backs since the 70's. He's better than Walter Payton, better than Emmitt Smith, better than Earl Campbell, better than any of them.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Hornung has always been a favorite of mine. Most hard-nosed player I've ever seen, maybe other than Favre. For size and speed and moves, AP is hard to beat. Although I always considered Gale Sayers and Jim Brown among the best. They'd control a game just like AP does.

[pbmax]

I understood these guys got hurt working on on their own in camp. Maybe I misunderstood.

Funny, I remember seeing film of Max McGee and Paul Hornung in the locker room after a game...smoking! I think Max and Paul never spent much time in the weight room. Paul used to run up the stadium stairs and Max just used to run around. They were natural athletes.

I don't think so. But I could be misreading it.

[red]

These guys are too, but there's so much more money involved now. Paul Hornung, with those lack-of-practice habits and the smoking after games, would get killed today. Heck, any of those old teams would. Just look at the weights the offensive and defensive lines were listed at.

Today, Hornung would be buff and trained up. He'd do just fine, though running backs are not as sexy as they used to be. Other than AP. Who is the best running back I have ever seen, and I've been watching great running backs since the 70's. He's better than Walter Payton, better than Emmitt Smith, better than Earl Campbell, better than any of them.

ahem

[Patler]

The amount of time that coaches and staff can have contact with the players during the off season is limited, now even more so than before the last CBA negotiation. The players are now forced to train on their own for much of the off season. Many get together in groups at conditioning centers around the country. There are two major "dead periods" when the players are on their own; from the end of the season to when the now much shorter off-season conditioning camp starts in April (I think) and for 3 weeks or so from the end of OTA's to the start of training camp.

[run pMc]

I really hope Sherrod can heal up and contribute to the team, at least as a backup swing tackle.
I'm not holding my breath, though.

Wouldn't be surprised if they PUP him and bring him in mid-season fully healed when everyone else is beat up.

[Carolina_Packer]

http://www.sportsmedia101.com/newyorkgiants/2013/07/27/nfl-makes-minor-change-to-physically-unable-to-perform-pup-list-rules/

If you read the above link, it looks like this is a preseason PUP list, which I took to mean that they are not going to see the practice field before they are ready 1) for fear of re-aggravating whatever ailment they have 2) because once practice, the PUP list is not an option until the start of the season, so it makes no sense to bring them back prematurely. It does put them behind, for sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean they won't be available by the start of the regular season. Is that how you interpret it?