Bulaga hurt?

[wist43]

You're right, Wist. MM is a lousy coach. He'll never go over a past season in review to learn from it. He'll never wise up to the need for a real running game. He's too in love with the pass.

And Thompson - he loves soft players. Loves 'em. He'll always deliberately draft a soft finesse guy over a roughneck, because he likes finesse.

And Capers - he's terrible. Deliberately uses stupid two-down lineman schemes when everybody knows that doesn't work. Doesn't really like playmakers. Doesn't make adjustments. Doesn't know how to use talent.

If it weren't for one player - just one, single player named Rodgers - this team would be 2-14, maybe, every single year. That's how lousy the above three leaders of this organization are.

Fritz... you're really beginning to see the light - although I'd argue we're a 5-11 team without ARod

[wist43]

Contrary to popular (or at least Wist's) opinion, the Packers ran the ball fairly effectively from 2007-2009 with Grant as the primary ball carrier. YPC of 4.1, 4.1 and 4.3 doing those years. They also ran it fairly well late in 2010 with a healthy Starks. They had a YPC of under 4 in 2006 and 2010-2012 with the likes of Brandon Jackson, Kuhn, Green and Benson running the ball. The biggest problem has been the quality of the ball carriers. Things picked up late last year when Harris took over for Green. The Packers have the best group of RB's they've had in quite a while. Good enough that Harris might not make the team. Because of this, the running game will be better this year. If the offensive line is improved, the running game could be quite a bit better.

They were on the short side of semi-okay during those years - but of course I wanna beat people up, ala SF and the other physical teams.

I know we're gonna be a soft team for as long as TT and MM are running the show. If they get us another SB title, hallelujah, I'll take it - but I don't see that happening unless the physical teams come back to us.

We're becoming, or have become, the Patriots of the NFC. Great QB, innovative offensive coach (at least in the passing game), but generally soft in most regards. Although, NE at least makes an effort to play tough defense - we don't even try.

If the league keeps moving more and more toward a Flag Football League - we're aces

[pbmax]

NOw that you mention it, when he left is when the running game depleted even with Grant still there he was never the same. Perhaps MM should have hired Alex Gibbs when I was pining for it.

Funny thing is two institutions decided he was under qualified for his job, Boston College and the Tampa Bay Bucs. The public story in Tampa was a demotion because of communication issues that were delaying calls in the huddle. But the leaks after the fact were more embarrassing as other coaches on staff declared his passing offense too simple and underdeveloped to succeed in the NFL. Several stories thought that was the reason for the demotion. He refused a reassignment to QB coach and was let go.

He has a real attitude and is outspoken. Sherman canned him after 3 years. Of all the coaches McCarthy has hired, Jags was the misfit. Green and Trgo look like Patriots coaches by comparison.

Despite an association with Sherman, McCarthy and the Packer offense, the Falcons offense when it had Alex Gibbs running game and his early success with the BC Eagles. He was not in demand. His next job was in the UFL then back to college.

Jags and Grant didn't cross paths. Jags got a near the end Ahman Green.

[Zool]

They were on the short side of semi-okay during those years - but of course I wanna beat people up, ala SF and the other physical teams.

Well at least we're finally getting somewhere in this circle jerk. You want them to be like another team. They aren't going to be no matter how many drums you beat.

I would like to know who the other power running teams are though. Maybe the Redskins or the Vikings?

[denverYooper]

Well at least we're finally getting somewhere in this circle jerk. You want them to be like another team. They aren't going to be no matter how many drums you beat.

I would like to know who the other power running teams are though. Maybe the Redskins or the Vikings?

The Chiefs had a pretty good running game. They finished 2-14.

[run pMc]

Contrary to popular (or at least Wist's) opinion, the Packers ran the ball fairly effectively from 2007-2009 with Grant as the primary ball carrier. YPC of 4.1, 4.1 and 4.3 doing those years. They also ran it fairly well late in 2010 with a healthy Starks. They had a YPC of under 4 in 2006 and 2010-2012 with the likes of Brandon Jackson, Kuhn, Green and Benson running the ball. The biggest problem has been the quality of the ball carriers. Things picked up late last year when Harris took over for Green. The Packers have the best group of RB's they've had in quite a while. Good enough that Harris might not make the team. Because of this, the running game will be better this year. If the offensive line is improved, the running game could be quite a bit better.

+1

IIRC Grant ran for 1200 yards twice in a 3 year span...I think the majority of fans and posters would be very happy if Lacy duplicated that.

As to wist's point:

A 6-8 game stretch in 7 years... worth of football - you'd think that at some point someone within the organization would wonder if there is something wrong with the picture??

I think someone in the organization did notice and that's how Lacy and Franklin got drafted.

[Pugger]

You're right, Wist. MM is a lousy coach. He'll never go over a past season in review to learn from it. He'll never wise up to the need for a real running game. He's too in love with the pass.

And Thompson - he loves soft players. Loves 'em. He'll always deliberately draft a soft finesse guy over a roughneck, because he likes finesse.

And Capers - he's terrible. Deliberately uses stupid two-down lineman schemes when everybody knows that doesn't work. Doesn't really like playmakers. Doesn't make adjustments. Doesn't know how to use talent.

If it weren't for one player - just one, single player named Rodgers - this team would be 2-14, maybe, every single year. That's how lousy the above three leaders of this organization are.

Yeah, I don't even know why we even bother watching this bunch of losers.

[wist43]

You guys are certainly worth the price of admission, lol...

Conscientious objectors certainly talk a good game - push comes to shove, you run though, huh??

I'm sure that was one of you who got away the other day... my brother stopped by the house, left his windows down on his SUV, his wifes purse was on the seat. We watched these two punks walk by... then circle back, casually strolling - - they look around, see no one, one of them goes to reach in the truck to grab the purse.

I yelled, one ran, the other kept casually walking as if he had done nothing... I grabbed the biggest knife I had at easy disposal and bolted out the door and gave chase. Mr. Casual Walker ran like hell, lol...

Would have cut his throat if I'd have caught him - can't run well anymore though, the kid is lucky.

I suspect most of you would have cowered in fear, and called the cops

Do you guys wear pink panties too??

Why do you guys even watch football?? Shouldn't you be watching the communist plot that is soccer?? Picketing MLB stadiums demanding they go to T-ball b/c it's safer??

I love you guys

[Patler]

Internet personae sure are entertaining.

[denverYooper]

Internet personae sure are entertaining.

+1

[swede]

Wist had his purse stolen?

[denverYooper]

Wist had his purse stolen?

And he wears pink panties.

[3irty1]

And he wears pink panties.

And he'd wear an orange jumpsuit if he could run faster.

[wist43]

And he'd wear an orange jumpsuit if he could run faster.

Miss the good ol days, that's for sure

[wist43]

Wist had his purse stolen?

The french call it a "Sac homme"... and Kramer made it okay for us to wear the "Manzeer"... and Depends has made it okay for us to wear diapers... and soccer has made it okay say American football is too rough - embrace the future of the American male!!!

Only a 'man' secure in his own metrosexuality could come out of those closets