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  • #91
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Sounds like RT material to me:

    SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 52m
    Bakhtiari as LT -- good lock-on guy, has some drive power. Not a space player yet -- will struggle at second level. Loses the edge vs. speed
    Translation....a turnstile for Jared Allen and the Queens.....
    -digital dean

    No "TROLLS" allowed!

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    • #92
      Though it does suck royally, it's something MM has to deal with. I don't agree with re-shifting everyone. All the musical chairs crap is what f-ed up the continuity on this line in the first place. Bakhtiari at LT. If he is truly god-awful then put Newhouse (if Sherrod isn't available). We've got less than a month before we play the Niners so we might as well throw in Bakhtiari and see how he does.
      -digital dean

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        It's not that much of a gamble though, because if it looks like Bacteria isn't ready, they can always go back to Newhouse. I would have preferred Datko at LT because I think he's more of a natural LT than either Bacteria or Newhouse. Apparently he's not in the discussion, although there's a lot of training camp to go.
        The problem with that Joe, is the reason Newhouse isn't at LT anymore is b/c he sucked there...

        That said, I wouldn't even screw around with Bacteria there... not right out of the gate. Put Newhouse over there, keep your middle 3 the same, and let the chips fall where they may at RT.

        If MM throws Bacteria out there against Justin Smith and Aldon Smith week 1?? Rodgers is a dead man...

        Two things we all know are going to happen in the Niner game, 1)MM will refuse to scale back his down field passing; and 2) he will abandon the run ASAP.

        Best we can hope for out of week 1 is that no one else gets hurt, and the score isn't too lopsided.
        wist

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        • #94
          Originally posted by wist43 View Post
          This is soooooo simple - you guys are really dense!!!

          Sitton will move to RG, Lang will move to LT, the Persian guy will move to RT, EDS will move to LG, Barclay will move to C - duh!!

          From there, of course, it follows that Newhouse is your new Fullback, Datko your new TE, Sherrod is the new Quality Control guy in charge of breaking down tape, and Van Roten has excellent feet and will be tried at CB.

          This is sooooo simple and obvious - how is it the rest of you can't see this????

          Sherri is not healthy enough to be a coach
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #95
            He's BACK

            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #96
              Originally posted by wist43 View Post
              Just b/c we drafted 2 RB's doesn't mean our running game is going to be improved... we were underpowered on the OL before Bulaga went down; now he's gone, and they're going to insert the smallest OL available in the draft??

              Newhouse is now solidly pencilled into the starting lineup at one of the T spots - he can't run block to save his life; and MM has shown no inclination to incorporate any power running into the playbook.

              Losing Bulaga and Sherrod isn't TT or MM's fault, but consistently drafting finesse foot shufflers, and refusing to adjust the playbook to improve the run game - is their fault.

              No running game and dubious pass blocking, likely mean that Rodgers will be beat to a pulp; and Capers playing as small as possible on Def?? This season is setting up to be a repeat of the SF game only for 16 games.

              If Rodgers goes down, we'll be drafting in the top 10 next year for sure. Even if Rodgers stays healthy, we're not going to be able to keep up with the big boys. Rodgers might not make it out of the SF game... this could be a very long season.
              As much as I want top agree with things you say, you lose all credibility saying we will pick in the top ten
              Go PACK

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                As much as I want top agree with things you say, you lose all credibility saying we will pick in the top ten
                Really? I can easily envision a scenario where it easily happens, and I'll go on record as saying this is the first time I agree with the Skeptical One (skeptical my ass, cynical and sardonic is more like it!). Starting a rookie LT, one of the Smith's gets by him and ends Rodger's season...the recently acquired VY starts 15 games.

                I just hope MM valuates Bakhtiari correctly, and makes the right decision over whether or not he should be started.
                --
                Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  http://www.seahawks.com/videos-photo...3-10db4a8a33c5

                  Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7, yes - 8 sacks in 1 half... that's some ugly stuff.

                  At least Rodgers survived
                  that was pretty much Bulaga's worst game as a pro iirc. To top it off it took MM until the second half to remember that handoffs were allowed.
                  The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                  • #99
                    I don't understand all the love for Datko. He couldn't get on the roster over Van Roten last year. He is big, yes. He is not winning one on ones in camp though. He is not effective. Pretty much, nothing about him says he can play LT in this league.

                    Again, shuffling guys is not that big of a deal as many make it out to be. My prediction is that Josh fucking sitton ends up playing LT for us this season. Why?? He is our best lineman and he can easily switch positions as he has before.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • PS...screw donald driver, does anyone know if the bubble gum infused into Cliftons knees is still holding up??
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • Datko has some very unusual circumstances surrounding him. I'm curious to see what he has. I'm going to hold off judgement until the last preseason game, and even then, just being decent at so many positions would give me enough hope to want to see more of him.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                          I'm in the Datko house as well. Here's my theory - Datko has not been having a good camp because he has been asked to play everywhere except LT. Why? Because we had Bulaga starting at LT and Newhouse was the backup. Let's face it, before the Bulaga injury, Newhouse was making this team either as the starting RT or top back up to both tackle positions. So, the Packers need interior guys, someone to play both guard positions and/or backup center. EDS can't do it like the two years prior cause he's starting at center. There's only some much room, and guys like EDS have made this team because he can come in and play 3 positions and be ok. That's probably what they were trying to do with Datko - get him to play all three interior positions. Doesn't sound like that is going well.

                          The Bulaga injury has now changed some things. What I'd like to see, provided TT doesn't bring anyone else in (we know he won't) and the staff is set on Newhouse staying at RT, is have Datko and Bacteria fight it out for the LT spot the next two weeks. Have Barclay focus on RT and RG and Van Roten focus on LG and Center.

                          Let's see how Datko and Bacteria hold up in practice and the first two pre-season games. If they both suck, you got Newhouse to go back to LT. I just can't see Bacteria starting. I have visions of Barbre all over again.
                          I too believe the main reason Datko has struggled this summer is he is no guard. Somebody's gotta tell MM and Campen you can't shove a round peg into a square hole. Before he got hurt at FSU some felt he'd be a 2nd rounder.

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                          • couldn't believe the news. I'm not ready to panic yet though. that can change if the ol health deteriorates. i've got a feeling balaclava is going to step up surprise everyone.

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                            • http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...218460911.html

                              McGinn with an upbeat, "the sky is not falling article. That's what I like about McGinn. He tries to offer a different perspective on things. And he's often right.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...218460911.html

                                McGinn with an upbeat, "the sky is not falling article. That's what I like about McGinn. He tries to offer a different perspective on things. And he's often right.
                                I read that article too. Made me feel a little better, but maybe that's McGinn's job. We can only wait and see. Like most have said, at least they have about a month to get this fixed.

                                We're all tired of the o-line woes, year after year. The shuffling of lineman in the off-season gave a very small sense of hope, but now, we're just right back to where we have been.

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