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  • #46
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    He is intriguing. Dude won 30 games, that's not a fluke. The Packers had other high draft choice re-treads through (Tim Couch comes to mind, and there was another...it couldn't have been Leaf, was it???) but they were never-was's. Young has shown more, who knows what his potential is? It seems like he had a mental breakdown, but with no pressure at all to start in GB, he might do well.
    agree completely.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #47
      Well, we know VY won't trip and fumble on handoffs.

      If they had brought VY in for QB school and whatnot then I think they could be more serious about this...he needs a lot of work on "his fundamentals". That said, he should be able to read *some* defenses and push the QBs for a spot. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

      Crazy athletic guy, even at 30, and especially compared to the Harrell & Coleman.
      Not saying it's a "free" peek, but it's very low risk at this point and worth a shot. Also...if you're looking to FA for a QB at this point, he's probably your best option. (Matt Leinart, anyone?)

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      • #48
        I find him incredibly intriguing. I wasn't as gung ho as partial was, back in the day, but I thought VY really had an "it" factor too. He's a competitor and I think a natural leader when his head is on straight. He's 30, but I'd like to see him get a year in this offense, a full offseason and next year see what he has. I think he was a special player coming out of college. And I must admit, I do love the back-yard style football you get with running QB's. It's fun to watch, would make for some fun games if AR was down for a week or two.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          Well, we know VY won't trip and fumble on handoffs.

          If they had brought VY in for QB school and whatnot then I think they could be more serious about this...he needs a lot of work on "his fundamentals". That said, he should be able to read *some* defenses and push the QBs for a spot. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

          Crazy athletic guy, even at 30, and especially compared to the Harrell & Coleman.
          Not saying it's a "free" peek, but it's very low risk at this point and worth a shot. Also...if you're looking to FA for a QB at this point, he's probably your best option. (Matt Leinart, anyone?)
          Of course we've seen no contract details, but I doubt it's costing the Packers much for this look-see. I can't see him getting a signing bonus, soif he's not on the roster day one of the league year, he gets his TC stipend and that's it. There's quite a storm over at PFT over the signing of a backup QB that has very little chance of seeing the field though!
          It's quickly become popular to justify the Packers' decision to sign quarterback Vince Young by pointing to the first two games of the schedule.
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          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by hoosier View Post
            It may not be the same people. And in this case it kind of accentuates the desperation of yet another preseason injury epidemic, capped off by seeing your starting LT go down with a season-ending ACL tear. Signing Vince Young is kind of like putting your finger in the dike when there is a tsunami on the horizon.
            I don't know if signing Young was in any way related to all these freaking injuries. To me it was more the progress or lack there of of Coleman.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Guiness View Post
              The Packers had other high draft choice re-treads through (Tim Couch comes to mind, and there was another...it couldn't have been Leaf, was it???) but they were never-was's.
              Rick Mirer 15-20 years ago.

              Akili Smith was in the Packer camp a few years ago, wasn't he?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                Rick Mirer 15-20 years ago.

                Akili Smith was in the Packer camp a few years ago, wasn't he?
                There was one point with Tim Couch in camp where an article was out boasting the Packers had backups with the most games started. So it was Tim Couch and somebody else, but I don't remember who. I think that was the year Eric Crouch tried to make it as a safety but couldn't as well...
                No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                • #53
                  The Philly reporters are on record that it looked like his physical gifts had diminished, but without having seen him play (and he did play in 2011) its hard to know whether that was system adjustment, conditioning or age.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                    There was one point with Tim Couch in camp where an article was out boasting the Packers had backups with the most games started. So it was Tim Couch and somebody else, but I don't remember who. I think that was the year Eric Crouch tried to make it as a safety but couldn't as well...
                    Ya, Couch was a given. Do you mean anther one the same year as Couch?
                    Couch filed an injury grievance against the Packers, as I recall, claiming his noodle arm was due to an injury sustained early in camp.

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                    • #55
                      Thompson interview today:

                      Mike Vandermause ‏@MikeVandermause 1h
                      TT: Felt like this is opportunity to take a look. Young was anxious to give it a try.

                      I think they just want to see what the guy can do. Upside signing. Said he, coaches and staff had long talk with him same day as workout. Seemed like he was in a good place.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Ya, Couch was a given. Do you mean anther one the same year as Couch?
                        Couch filed an injury grievance against the Packers, as I recall, claiming his noodle arm was due to an injury sustained early in camp.
                        I'm not sure when the other was, but within a couple of years of Couch. Smith sounds right...yup, found it on the Wikipedia page. He was in the Packers camp in 2003. Neither of those guys made it onto the roster. He also apparently threw 3 TD passes in a preseason game against everybody's 5th favorite team, the Saskatchewan Roughriders in '07

                        I'd forgotten about the injury grievance by Couch. That was pretty pathetic, the Pack gave him a chance to get back into the league after the mess in Cleveland and it seemed like when he couldn't make it he went after a few extra bucks.
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          Ya, Couch was a given. Do you mean anther one the same year as Couch?
                          Couch filed an injury grievance against the Packers, as I recall, claiming his noodle arm was due to an injury sustained early in camp.
                          Maybe it was Akili. I just remember that it was Couch and somebody else.
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                            Maybe it was Akili. I just remember that it was Couch and somebody else.
                            Akili Smith wasn't the same year as Couch. Doug Pedersen was still on his return visit to GB when Couch was in camp. Akili Smith was in camp a year or so earlier, also with Pdersen

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                              I'd forgotten about the injury grievance by Couch. That was pretty pathetic, the Pack gave him a chance to get back into the league after the mess in Cleveland and it seemed like when he couldn't make it he went after a few extra bucks.
                              Then a couple years later, Matt O'Dwyer did the same thing. He missed the year before due to injury. The Packers give him a minimum contract to see if he had anything left. He was released and filed an injury grievance, claiming he was fully healed from the year before but had sustained a new injury in GB.

                              Cletidus Hunt had a legitimate similar situation. The Packers debated whether to bring him back or release him. They brought him in and he was hurt the first day of camp. The Packers paid him for the season.

                              Then fans wonder why teams don't just "bring so-and-so in for a look." The look can cost a year's salary.

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                              • #60
                                I was listening to Jason Wilde on the radio. Wilde contacted the football beat writer in Buffalo, some friend of his, to get the dope on Vince Young, last seen professionally getting cut by the Bills. That guy thought Young looked really good, and there was talk that he might even unseat Ryan Fitzpatrick for the #1 job. (The Bills had a lot tied-up with Fitzpatrick, that was factor.)

                                I don't know if this means very much. It doesn't entirely square with the fact that Young didn't get picked up by another team. But it's better than hearing that he was washed up. It could be the Vince Young just had a bad reputation from his antics, so no interest.

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