TIME TO CHANGE KICKERS ??? JS article

[Bretsky]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/time-for-packers-to-change-kickers-b9967045z1-218603701.html

[Bretsky]

Just give a simple

YES
NO

NOT SURE YET to Mason Crosby



Here are some random thoughts; I see why MM and TT continue to be in love with Crosby.
I was at the game the other night. For those of us who witnessed the kickoff first hand we saw the following

PLAYER ONE.............The hot blonde who disappoints


PLAYER TWO............The average chick who lives up to the billing


Seriously, the ball was just flying off of Player One's . Nearly all of those kicks are good....if aimed correctly.....from 60-65 yards. But then he misfired on 5 of 8. Do you stay with the sexy knowing the upside is there................or go to

Player Two.....who seemed to have a nice aim.....but the distance is undboutedly limited. His kickoffs were not that good...........and he struggled mightily to kick it 50
But his aim was there............and he did not disappoint.


WHERE IS YOUR BIAS RATS ??

[pbmax]

If there was a veteran kicker, even limited in range, on the roster, I would be for throwing Crosby off the ship.

This originally started with a problem at mid-range on the right hash. The normal draw a right footed kicker would get was no longer happening for him. So he would target the rightmost upright and expect a slight draw to move the ball to the middle. He somehow had developed a slice that pushed the ball to the left (in some cases simply bringing it back to dead on straight).

It took forever to correct (more than 1 year, maybe 2). By the time it disappeared, he had begun to lose his touch from 50+. What had been a good leg at long FGs disappeared. McCarthy never backed off his love of long FGs and often seemed to trim back his offenses sails just to ensure he got an attempt at it.

He finally laid off long ones at times last year and Crosby had a better second half. But that stupid slice returned last year as well as in the scrimmage.

What is clear is that neither Crosby nor his coach seem to be able to correct it without introducing other problems.

And this doesn't even touch the mystery short range misfires.

Something is woefully wrong or unpredictable and needs to be removed.

But I am not sure a new kicker is the answer. Not every waiver pickup is Longwell. Bias is to stay with the hot blonde until I have to pick at final roster cutdown. By then, hopefully new average brunette will have proved herself.

[Maxie the Taxi]

If I'm the coach, I cut Crosby and go with Tav or another kicker. Field position is everything and a long field goal that's missed can change momentum in a heartbeat. Crosby has become a head case.

[Joemailman]

I've had it with the hot blonde and I'm about ready to dump her. I'm just afraid I'll wake up one morning and realize the "average chick" is actually ugly as hell.

[pbmax]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...218603701.html

P.S. Start a poll next time.

[Bretsky]

P.S. Start a poll next time.

Bretsky would always go for the well endowed hot blonde; if the first doesn't work Bretsky would look for another hot blonde. The kicker we brought in would not be under consideration if Bretsky was the GM.

Seriously, TT brought in this kicker because he thought she was an ugly chick and was fully confident the hot blonde would easily win this battle. The competetition is nothing short of a facade as there are much better babes to bring in to compete with our blonde that the weak legged Italian


BTW......the other think I learned on Saturday....is our punter....he has an incredibly strong kicking leg.

If we had a weak legged but reliable kicker handling field goals Mashay could excel at kickoffs


JAN STENURUD................anybody.................. ??

[Patler]

The hot blonde excels at other aspects of kicking, like kickoffs, kickoff coverage (he does know how to tackle) and is one of the best I have seen at onside kicks. The hot blonde needs to go to one of the kicking specialist that the Packers have designated off limits, to figure out what the FG issue is.

He has shown in the past that he can be very successful over a prolonged period. Remember, it was in 2011 that he broke the Packer record for consecutive successful FG attempts (21, I think). From when the streak started in the 6th game of 2010 through to when his troubles really started in the 5th game of 2012, he was a combined 44 of 51 over a 31 game period. He does attempt a higher percentage of 40+ yard kicks than most kickers, because Rodgers has been so good at getting TDs when the Packers reach the red zone, so the 44/51 was a strong performance.

It all went to heck for him in 2012, and it seems to be getting progressively worse. He needs to consult a true expert in kicking. I have been a staunch supporter of Crosby, especially due to the way he has been used by MM. But, I'm afraid he can be fixed only by moving on. I think he has passed the point of no return in GB.

[Zool]

I have a feeling PB is right. Neither the blonde nor the casual fuck buddy you don't tell your friends about will be on the roster week 1. If Crosby doesn't turn this around in a hurry, he'll be in someone else's camp next year.

[RashanGary]

It's been hard to watch, for sure. We're probably gonna have to move on.

[pbmax]

The hot blonde needs to go to one of the kicking specialist that the Packers have designated off limits, to figure out what the FG issue is.

I consider this one of McCarthy's few true failings. Its clear they don't have the answer on staff to fix him. Now, if they dumped him like a UDFA OLB at the end of camp, I could understand not wanting to commit resources to such a short term, limited return project.

But they clearly value what he brings to the team and McCarthy has failed to get him the necessary assistance. I think the return of that slice is damning because they made an adjustment, it affected other things and now its back. Underlying problem is not solved.

[Patler]

Just for a point of reference:

In his 5th year, Ryan Longwell was awful. 20/31 for 64.5%. At the various distances, he was
20-29ards - 3/4
30-39 yards - 9/10
40-49 yards - 7/14
50+ yards - 1/3

Last year, Crosby was 21/33 for 63.6%. His performance by distance:
20-29ards - 5/5
30-39 yards - 5/7
40-49 yards - 9/12
50+ yards - 2/9

[Patler]

I consider this one of McCarthy's few true failings. Its clear they don't have the answer on staff to fix him. Now, if they dumped him like a UDFA OLB at the end of camp, I could understand not wanting to commit resources to such a short term, limited return project.

But they clearly value what he brings to the team and McCarthy has failed to get him the necessary assistance. I think the return of that slice is damning because they made an adjustment, it affected other things and now its back. Underlying problem is not solved.

Ya, after last season, what was there to lose? I would have let him go to anyone that might help.

[King Friday]

It is hard to give up on Crosby, because his leg strength is a positive on kickoffs and like others have mentioned he is an exceptional onside kick artist. He only missed 5 FGs inside of 50 yards last year. Like Patler points out, all kickers go through slumps.

The Italian has ZERO pressure on him right now. He's playing with house money. He is completely unproven in a true pressure situation. He may look great all camp, get the job, then fall flat on his face. The good thing for us is that I think he's proven at least a capable option, so it gives you a chance to let Crosby either kick his way on or off the team in preseason. His performance the other night was damaging, but I don't think you cut bait just yet. If he proves adequate when the lights come on in preseason, he'll keep his job.

[Carolina_Packer]

I have a feeling PB is right. Neither the blonde nor the casual fuck buddy you don't tell your friends about will be on the roster week 1. If Crosby doesn't turn this around in a hurry, he'll be in someone else's camp next year.

What will Crosby do if the Packers let him go? The Vikings already have Walsh.