TIME TO CHANGE KICKERS ??? JS article

[George Cumby]

IME: the Hot Blonde was a total soul-destroying nutcase. Over time the "average chick" gave a lot better return.

But analogies become absurd when taken to their logical conclusion. So it's down to competition, if Crosby doesn't unfuck his head, we go with the Guinea.

[Fritz]

IME: the Hot Blonde was a total soul-destroying nutcase. Over time the "average chick" gave a lot better return.

But analogies become absurd when taken to their logical conclusion. So it's down to competition, if Crosby doesn't unfuck his head, we go with the Guinea.

You know who you want.

[pbmax]

You know who you want.

Nice pads.

[Pugger]

But is Tavecchio the answer tho?

[denverYooper]

Nice pads.

M3 would like that. She's got good pad level.

[Brandon494]

YES!!!! I've been saying for years how overrated Crosby is. Who cares if he has a leg, I want a kicker who can put points on the board.

[Fritz]

YES!!!! I've been saying for years how overrated Crosby is. Who cares if he has a leg, I want a kicker who can put points on the board.

My patience with Crosby is (finally) running out. I've been a supporter of his, but I am starting to think he's not going to get this "mechanical" stuff figured out. Which is to say, his head is a mess. He just hasn't produced, and while I hope he turns it around in the next three preseason games, if he doesn't, well, I'm ready to kick him off the team. If I don't bounce him off the right goal post.

[mraynrand]

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I see the problem. You can't kick a football in heels like those.

[Fritz]

True, true. Those heels are meant to be sole-side up.

[Patler]

YES!!!! I've been saying for years how overrated Crosby is. Who cares if he has a leg, I want a kicker who can put points on the board.

The unfortunate thing is that he had become that. From the start of 2010 until things started to go bad in 2012, over a span of 41 games (including playoffs) he was 56/67 for 84% even while being asked to kick more than his fair share from 40+ yards (42% of his kicks during that time were from 40 yards or more; 13% were from 50 yards or more).

I'm not advocating keeping him, he needs to earn than. But, to argue that he never has been good enough, I think, is wrong.

[King Friday]

Who cares if he has a leg, I want a kicker who can put points on the board.

Crosby led the league in scoring in 2007, and he put up 140 points in 2011...so he clearly HAS the capacity to put points on the board, even recently when you suggest you were screaming from the mountain top to get rid of him. His success was above 75% every season until last year...where almost 1/3 of his attempts were 50+. I place some blame on McCarthy here...he preferred too often to throw 30 yard bombs on third and short rather than pick up critical yards to move the chains or at least improve field position for a FG attempt. Our offense also was very successful in the red zone last year, and it took away a number of chip shots that would've helped Crosby's stats.

You don't get rid of a guy with a leg like Crosby's until you are convinced he's lost it. I'm not convinced yet. He had one bad year, where only 12 of 33 kicks he attempted were under 40 yards. That is ABNORMAL, especially for a kicker on a team that plays in a cold weather city outdoors. I'm guessing you could count on one hand the number of kickers in Chicago, Green Bay, Buffalo, New England, New York that have attempted at least 30 FGs in a year and had 60% of them be over 40 yards. I'm also guessing all of them had pretty horrible years.

I think many of you were spoiled by Crosby's success 2011...where 20 of Crosby's 28 kicks were UNDER 40 yards. Historically, that is where ALL kickers gain on their accuracy stats. Few kickers have both the leg strength AND accuracy to be consistently great over 40 yards unless they play a lot of games in a dome. If we are going to expect our kicker to have 60% of their kicks be over 40 yards, then I don't care who we have as a kicker...their ability to "put points on the board" will be seriously compromised.

[digitaldean]

Really want to spice things up?? Bring in Dan Carpenter, formerly of the Dolphins. He just got cut today....

[pbmax]

Really want to spice things up?? Bring in Dan Carpenter, formerly of the Dolphins. He just got cut today....

Going to need to increase preseason scoring to get them tested. Right now they would only be trading off kickoffs

[Joemailman]

Crosby led the league in scoring in 2007, and he put up 140 points in 2011...so he clearly HAS the capacity to put points on the board, even recently when you suggest you were screaming from the mountain top to get rid of him. His success was above 75% every season until last year...where almost 1/3 of his attempts were 50+. I place some blame on McCarthy here...he preferred too often to throw 30 yard bombs on third and short rather than pick up critical yards to move the chains or at least improve field position for a FG attempt. Our offense also was very successful in the red zone last year, and it took away a number of chip shots that would've helped Crosby's stats.

You don't get rid of a guy with a leg like Crosby's until you are convinced he's lost it. I'm not convinced yet. He had one bad year, where only 12 of 33 kicks he attempted were under 40 yards. That is ABNORMAL, especially for a kicker on a team that plays in a cold weather city outdoors. I'm guessing you could count on one hand the number of kickers in Chicago, Green Bay, Buffalo, New England, New York that have attempted at least 30 FGs in a year and had 60% of them be over 40 yards. I'm also guessing all of them had pretty horrible years.

I think many of you were spoiled by Crosby's success 2011...where 20 of Crosby's 28 kicks were UNDER 40 yards. Historically, that is where ALL kickers gain on their accuracy stats. Few kickers have both the leg strength AND accuracy to be consistently great over 40 yards unless they play a lot of games in a dome. If we are going to expect our kicker to have 60% of their kicks be over 40 yards, then I don't care who we have as a kicker...their ability to "put points on the board" will be seriously compromised.

Crosby was only 5-7 from 30-39 last year. Only 1 kicker had a worse percentage. He needs to nail those. 17 of the top 25 kickers missed 0 or 1, and most had more attempts. He was 9-12 from 40-49. That looks to be about average for a good NFL kicker. His 2-9 from 50+ was in a class of its own. A few of those (I specifically remember Indy) wouldn't have been good from 40. We may be a bit spoiled, but he was a below average NFL kicker last year. He needs to turn it around.

[Brandon494]

Look at Dan Carpenter numbers then compare them to Crosby....and Carpenter is the kicker who got cut? Crosby's longest kick is 58 yards while Carpenter's longest is 60 yards. Stop hyping up the guy's leg like hes Sebastian Janikowski, Crosby is just an average kicker playing on a team with a high powered offense.