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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bretsky View Post

    Carpenter is a really reliable and good kicker; it's telling that we didn't bit as that opportunity IMO
    I must ask because I don't know. If he is what you say he is, why did he get cut from his team?
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      I must ask because I don't know. If he is what you say he is, why did he get cut from his team?
      They loved the rookie they drafted and brough it...here is a bit more info

      It looks like fifth-round pick Caleb Sturgis will be the Dolphins kicker this season.

      The Dolphins announced Wednesday afternoon that they have released veteran kicker Dan Carpenter, who was competing with Sturgis for the job in Miami this season. It’s not a huge surprise since teams don’t tend to draft kickers without plans to give them the job once the regular season rolls around.

      Carpenter spent the last five years with the Dolphins, connecting on 81.9 percent of his field goal tries over that time and going to the Pro Bowl after the 2009 season. He made both field goals he tried in the Hall of Fame Game, but didn’t try any kicks during the Dolphins’ second preseason game against the Jaguars. The Dolphins will save $2.675 million by cutting Carpenter.
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #48
        I think there is a mentality in the NFL these days that there is no need to pay kickers good money anymore because you can always get adequate talent there for a good deal.

        The NFL Network.........who has a SERIOUS crush in Ted Thompson.....like they have for Hoody Genius...........

        Laid down some criticism on TT last week noting the contract he signed Crosby for has turned out to be ridiculous in looking at all of the kickers around the league and what they made. They noted to give any kicker that kind of money..........he has to pretty much be a star at his postion because you can always find guys that are very good and now the Packers have a pretty good chunk of change on the line for a guy who's turned out to be very sub par for his professsion.

        Again, the Packers.....and me as well....have had some man love because his leg is one of the best in the NFL......it appears we were both wrong.
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #49
          His leg is fine. The problem with Mason is between the ears.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            I think there is a mentality in the NFL these days that there is no need to pay kickers good money anymore because you can always get adequate talent there for a good deal.

            The NFL Network.........who has a SERIOUS crush in Ted Thompson.....like they have for Hoody Genius...........

            Laid down some criticism on TT last week noting the contract he signed Crosby for has turned out to be ridiculous in looking at all of the kickers around the league and what they made. They noted to give any kicker that kind of money..........he has to pretty much be a star at his postion because you can always find guys that are very good and now the Packers have a pretty good chunk of change on the line for a guy who's turned out to be very sub par for his professsion.

            Again, the Packers.....and me as well....have had some man love because his leg is one of the best in the NFL......it appears we were both wrong.
            Bill Barnwell wrote this article a year and a half ago about why teams shouldn't pay kickers or RBs a lot of money because they're basically fungible in the NFL:
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #51
              Just a question: If Crosby's leg is so strong, why don't his kickoffs sail over the end zone every time? Moreover, there were games when Crosby would try kicking off very high with a lot of hang time or angled toward the sideline, supposedly to allow good coverage. Why would he do this if the guy could kick it over the end zone every time?

              Comment: Watching other teams kickoff around the league, my opinion is that Crosby's leg is average or a bit above. Take last night's game in Baltimore, for example. Virtually every kickoff was to the back of the end zone or over it.
              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                They loved the rookie they drafted and brough it...here is a bit more info

                It looks like fifth-round pick Caleb Sturgis will be the Dolphins kicker this season.

                The Dolphins announced Wednesday afternoon that they have released veteran kicker Dan Carpenter, who was competing with Sturgis for the job in Miami this season. It’s not a huge surprise since teams don’t tend to draft kickers without plans to give them the job once the regular season rolls around.

                Carpenter spent the last five years with the Dolphins, connecting on 81.9 percent of his field goal tries over that time and going to the Pro Bowl after the 2009 season. He made both field goals he tried in the Hall of Fame Game, but didn’t try any kicks during the Dolphins’ second preseason game against the Jaguars. The Dolphins will save $2.675 million by cutting Carpenter.
                OK, but why draft a kicker if you have a 81% FG kicker? What was the shortcoming? There has to be one.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  Laid down some criticism on TT last week noting the contract he signed Crosby for has turned out to be ridiculous in looking at all of the kickers around the league and what they made. .... Again, the Packers.....and me as well....have had some man love because his leg is one of the best in the NFL
                  It wasn't a bad decision by TT, in fact it was a smart one that just turned out wrong. Crosby had demonstrated both leg strength and accuracy. There is risk in even the most carefully calculated personnel decision, and TT's calculations were reasonable. Now I hope he calculates that Crosby is dead weight.

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                  • #54
                    Well, it seems like everyone's opinion is that Crosby is a dead man walking.

                    I hope the Pack doesn't have another Jon Ryan type debacle, where they ditched him at the end of TC and brought in a replacement to start the regular season (was it Frost?), only to have it not work out. If Crosby is not going to be the kicker, and the other guy in camp isn't the answer, get someone else NOW instead of waiting and hoping on someone else's castoff a kicker.
                    --
                    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      OK, but why draft a kicker if you have a 81% FG kicker? What was the shortcoming? There has to be one.
                      Does make you wonder, doesn't it? It doesn't seem to make sense to draft a kicker unless you are dissatisfied with your incumbent. It makes even less sense to release the incumbent after one preseason game unless there is something about him that you really dislike.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Does make you wonder, doesn't it? It doesn't seem to make sense to draft a kicker unless you are dissatisfied with your incumbent. It makes even less sense to release the incumbent after one preseason game unless there is something about him that you really dislike.
                        Contract? I thought he was making a lot for a K, as was Lindell.

                        Then again, Crosby's making more than he has earned right now.
                        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                          Contract? I thought he was making a lot for a K, as was Lindell.

                          Then again, Crosby's making more than he has earned right now.
                          I suppose. He was scheduled to make $2.7 M. Sturgis will be $400K plus his signing bonus.

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