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I think last night's stumblefest might have reshuffled the deck.
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Someone on Twitter said Young moved up. I don't know how unless McCarthy plans to run a QB bootleg offense if Rodgers goes down.
These guys have to keep playing and you have to hope one of them sorts it out. But Harrell cannot be this limited and that loose with the football.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow. -
I think TT may do a dumpster dive, but not with the expectation that the guy can be the #2 a week later. It would take a trade very soon, I would think.Comment
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the goal of a #2 QB for us would be to step in, finish a game, and maybe keep us competitive for one start if a-rod goes down but isn't lost for the year
none of our current QB's can do that
coleman is as good as gone alreadyComment
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Doesn't matter who it is, without AR for more than a we are a 6-10 team at best.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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None can do that today, for sure. Where do you project the Packers will be sitting on Sept 1? Cousin Vinny has only had 3 days of practice, how much better will he be? Would TT dare go into opener with a complete newbee in the job? Just because Rodgers goes down doesn't mean the Packers have to lose, even with Graham Harrell. When confronted with bad choices, it is easy to say "none of the above", but internet GMs with testicles don't have that option.Originally posted by red View PostComment
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It's Harrel. He knows the offense just isn't any good.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.Comment
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are any of the current backups better then randle "wild" cobb?
after watching harrell last night i thought to myself "do we even have to waste a roster spot on a completely worthless player"?
i think it would be scary to have "limp wrist" harrell come into the game and try and continue using the same type of passing game that a-rod uses. i saw him make one pass to the sideline that seemed like it took forever to get out there. those long passes to the sideline have to come out of the playbook when a-rod comes out.
and if we have to change the scheme for a backup QB, why not just throw cobb back there (if he's healthy) and let him run the wild cat or something like it for the rest of the game?
keep a normal QB on the practice squad for running the b-team in practice, and use the roster spot for someone who might contribute to the teamComment
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Alex Gillette? Go to the 9:05 mark on this video. The guy's arm is stronger than Harrell's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqBNmxVyPIOriginally posted by red View PostOne time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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Clearly Young should win the job, he has the most experience and hes a dual threat. Hes not the greatest passer but guess what? Neither is Harrell or Coleman. At least Young can make plays with his legs if need be.
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plus in practice he can give the defense that read option lookOriginally posted by Brandon494 View Post
my main problem with VY is, an he learn our offense fast enough? the number 2 QB has to know his shit to help the number one on the field
is he smart enough? i mean after all, he is black
but seriously, he scored a 6 on the wonderlic, a fucking 6. you get 5 for using the right type of pencil. he was somehow allowed to retake it and got a 14, still pretty low
does he have the brains to learn our offense and playbook by week 1?
if he can, then i agree he should be the #2. he's got the experience and he's no worse throwing then harrell and coleman, but like you said, he can runLast edited by red; 08-10-2013, 12:07 PM.Comment
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If they all continue to stink and Harrell is loose with the ball, you might get your wish. Young would make a #2 and Coleman will be stashed on the practice squad.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Harrell will be the number 2. He knows the system and can move the ball. As far as being loose with the ball, I think it's a matter of getting reps. Let's face it, for the last few years we've put all are marbles on Rodgers. I don't think they want to pay a really decent backup QB...say like Orton in Dallas or McCoy in SF or Quinn and Jackson in Seattle. Look at Atlanta...they've got two rookies and a second year man backing up Ryan. If their top guy goes down, the Falcons are pretty much done for too.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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Little is asked of fans, but there is one sacred responsibility: to remain hopeful (within the bounds of sanity.) It is not insane to think that Vince Young will catch-on to the system and be significantly better than Harrell. Therefore, there is a right answer for fans who take their duties seriously: VY.
I don't think GH is terrible, but we've seen his limitations. As to bringing in a new guy, I don't see how that could work better than GH without grooming the guy for a month.
As to Vinny being a dummy, lets see him play. However:
"I knew it going in," Coleman said of being fourth in line. "I could see it in practice. I worked with Vince all week helping him learn the offense and get comfortable.
"I think Vince is a very smart guy, that's something he doesn't get credit for. He did what he was asked to do and now he'll expand on that."Comment
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