Run Game Analysis: Its the Guys Upfront

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Banaczyk likes Van Roten too and reported that it looks like he has figured out how to snap the ball and play center. Feels he needs more strength but could play there. Doesn't seem as high on EDS as others, he thinks he whiffs on too many blocks.

I think Lang being too high is also a function of his size, he is a tall guard.

The is Twitter panic going on about DaJones because of the McCarthy no comment and still undergoing testing on Saturday. A lot of people think they have heard these opening chords before.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Its not about age, its about experience. Newhouse has started the better part of two years. This will be his third year starting and he is still playing like shit and its only preseason. Good backup nothing more.

I'm not able to say that he was shit Friday night. He had a spectacular fail, that colors perception. It is possible that Newhouse will never be any good. But there are lots of O-linemen who barely hang around the league for 3 years and then become solid players.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I forgot that he missed an entire year, I was thinking of 2011 as 2012.

I still think he will get another training camp, but he is approaching JH territory.

Harrell being given four years doesn't mean that Sherrod will too. Sherrod is strictly a tackle and you only carry at most 4 tackles. If Bulaga had stayed healthy the depth would have caught up with him. With Harrell the depth didn't catch up with him until year four. Also, what helped Harrell last that long was b/c they had limited depth during a time we were switching from a 43 defense to a 34 defense. We needed linemen.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sherrod still has potential to be an excellent starting LT. He has rare physical qualities. No chance he is cut before September 2014.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Sherrod still has potential to be an excellent starting LT. He has rare physical qualities. No chance he is cut before September 2014.

Actually I agree. That's what I meant by Bulaga going down buying him more time. If Bulaga played solid at LT this year and both Bakhtiari/Barclay played solid you become less patient with Sherrod. Now you probably wait to see if he can still put it together.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Banaczyk likes Van Roten too and reported that it looks like he has figured out how to snap the ball and play center. Feels he needs more strength but could play there. Doesn't seem as high on EDS as others, he thinks he whiffs on too many blocks.

I think Lang being too high is also a function of his size, he is a tall guard.

The is Twitter panic going on about DaJones because of the McCarthy no comment and still undergoing testing on Saturday. A lot of people think they have heard these opening chords before.

I'm all for playing the young guys. The Newhouse's and EDS's of the world are what they are. Decent backups. Play guys with upside and if they fail keep looking.

[Joemailman]

I think Baranczyk is the most insightful guy covering the Packers other than McGinn.

In other words, I agree with most of what he says.

[Harlan Huckleby]

BTW, I was not at all sold on Bulaga at LT. I'm sure he could do the job, but probably it's not his best position.

Speaking of injuries, Bulaga is now damaged goods every bit as Sherrod.

Having too many good tackles in 2014 training camp is not a problem the Packers need to lose sleep over.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm all for playing the young guys. The Newhouse's and EDS's of the world are what they are.

Maybe so on EDS, who is 27 years old. Age matters.

Frank Winters had been cut by 3 teams before he came to GB. He barely made the GB roster for 2 years. Now he is in Packer Hall of Fame. Today, I assume he is a decrepit, morbidly obese alcoholic. (only kidding)

[Bretsky]

Sherrod still has potential to be an excellent starting LT. He has rare physical qualities. No chance he is cut before September 2014.

He's shown every little IMO with the Green Bay Packers. Many rookie OL we've drafted over the past five years showed better than Justine Sherry when he was actually playing.
He has the look of at OT on paper but he's shown little. IF he were in camp IMO he'd be cut
No surprise if they hide him on IR again; that is his home

[Bretsky]

BTW, I was not at all sold on Bulaga at LT. I'm sure he could do the job, but probably it's not his best position.

Speaking of injuries, Bulaga is now damaged goods every bit as Sherrod.

Having too many good tackles in 2014 training camp is not a problem the Packers need to lose sleep over.

But Bulaga has shown he's a very good player when healthy

[Harlan Huckleby]

He's shown every little IMO with the Green Bay Packers. Many rookie OL we've drafted over the past five years showed better

All that was proven in Sherrod's rookie year is that he is out of position at guard. I don't take too much away from that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

But Bulaga has shown he's a very good player when healthy

Right. But he is every bit the china doll as Sherrod.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

So if Sherrod comes in the league at 21 and misses his first three years he still has hope because he's 24. Yet, if he comes in at say 23 and misses his first three seasons he's done b/c he's almost 27? It's not all about age. Eventually you will give up on both the 24 year old and 27 year old.

And for every Frank Winters there are 100 players who get a chance to play, proceed to suck, and are kicked to the curb. Difference is those 100 is no one remembers them. Just like no one will remember Newhouse in 2-3 years.

Bulaga now will miss two seasons, but he is not damaged goods like Sherrod. Bulaga had two unrelated injuries and before this most recent injury was regarded as our best linemen. Bulaga can play, with Sherrod who knows. How many years are you supposed to pay a guy for doing nothing? Eventually depth will catch up with him.

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But Bulaga has shown he's a very good player when healthy

Unless he faces a good opponent like Seattle's D line. He is good, but he has limitations. Even forgetting Seattle, he had a terrible start to 2012. I think its correct to be concerned about how he would have fared at LT in pass pro. It was about the 3rd most common topic of conversation and he had just begin to turn it around prior to his injury (first two topics: is defense better and why cannot we pass against cover2).

He had the better fortune of having his catastrophic injuries after he was established as a starter.

At the end of 2013, Bryan Bulaga will have been available for 37 of 64 games (57%) in his illustrious career (right now, its 37/48 or 77%).

At the end of 2013, Derek Sherrod might have been available for 30 of 48 games (62.5%). As of right now, its 14 of 32 (43%).

We'll see who is the Justine.