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  • #31
    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    Miller is an UDFA who was on the Bears PS last year. Boyd was drafted this year. It's a tough call on Boyd. I think Jolly would help the team more this year, but Boyd might get picked up by someone if the Packers try to stash him on the PS. Very few of TT's draft picks from the first 5 rounds have not made the team that first year.
    I guess I was confusing that other nose tackle taken in the 5th round, Micah Hyde. A lot of heart, but way undersized, IMO.

    Miller was the guy who impressed me most in AZ game, maybe that's why I thought he was drafted. He gets a lot of push, moves well.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Fritz View Post
      I think, if Jolly continues to improve his conditioning, and his skills return, that he's a better player than Josh Boyd. I haven't read that Boyd has been impressive, at all. I wonder if he could be stashed on the PS.
      If Miller is better now, then Boyd is expendable.

      I sure want them to keep Jolly. Initially it was because he has been such a hard luck case, you want something good to happen for him. Now I think he's a lock to find a job somewhere, good for him. I want the Packers to keep him because he can be a monster, and I don't give a damn about his conditioning. Grady Jackson didn't need no stinkin conditioning. Let him play till he gets tired, good enough.

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      • #33
        What is making it tough to keep Jolly isn't Boyd, it's Wilson: he and JJ are more or less redundant. Boyd probably sticks around at the bottom of the roster with the hope that they can develop him and that next year he is part of the rotation; he could even fill in at NT in the base defense. As much as everyone wants to see him on the team, Jolly's age and his time away from the game make it unlikely that he can make the final cut.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hoosier View Post
          What is making it tough to keep Jolly isn't Boyd, it's Wilson: he and JJ are more or less redundant. Boyd probably sticks around at the bottom of the roster with the hope that they can develop him and that next year he is part of the rotation; he could even fill in at NT in the base defense. As much as everyone wants to see him on the team, Jolly's age and his time away from the game make it unlikely that he can make the final cut.
          I sad...

          I really didn't think that Jolly would have trouble making the team playing as well as he has. But Neal was a beast today according to MM and Wilson was very good last Friday vs AZ. I hope he continues to improve and make it hard for him to get the ask.
          [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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          • #35
            A couple of surprises - House, Quarless and Neale, I would have expected them to be 'good bets'. Datko listed as a long shot - a bit of a surprise because many here seem high on him.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Guiness View Post
              A couple of surprises - House, Quarless and Neale, I would have expected them to be 'good bets'. Datko listed as a long shot - a bit of a surprise because many here seem high on him.
              House had a poor game, and was behind Hyde in practice this week, but he's still probably a good bet with the injuries to Williams and Hayward. Quarless is hurt again, and needs to show he can get on the field to make the team. Neal had a good practice today, and probably is a good bet due to his versatility. People were high on Datko before camp started, but reports are he hadn't had a good camp.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Miller had a better game than Boyd. Boyd needs some time in a new system. Scoop McGinn has covered this but he is being asked to do everything different now compared to college. He stays and will be inactive. Miller is interesting in Jumbo packages. Good luck seeing the first down marker with Raji, Pickett, Miller and Jolly out there.
                Is Boyd a PS candidate?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  House had a poor game, and was behind Hyde in practice this week, but he's still probably a good bet with the injuries to Williams and Hayward. Quarless is hurt again, and needs to show he can get on the field to make the team. Neal had a good practice today, and probably is a good bet due to his versatility. People were high on Datko before camp started, but reports are he hadn't had a good camp.
                  Is Datko practicing yet? I heard he had a concussion.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    Is Datko practicing yet? I heard he had a concussion.
                    Boyd was a 5th round pick. I think there may be teams who were interested in drafting Boyd late who may snatch him if the Packers put him on their PS.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                      Is Datko practicing yet? I heard he had a concussion.
                      Not yet. Still "going through the process" as MM likes to stay.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Not yet. Still "going through the process" as MM likes to stay.
                        Yes, though before that he wasn't having a good camp, according to reports.

                        I was high on Quarless, but I think it's true that he needs to get on the field and stay there in order to make this team. I think Mulligan and Finley are the locks, and whether the team keeps three or four TE's, Quarless is in a battle for his professional life with Williams, Bostick, Taylor, and maybe even Stonehenge.

                        I am not wondering if part of the reason the team is playing Neal at OLB is so they can count him as an OLB and thus keep an "extra" d-lineman.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                          I guess I was confusing that other nose tackle taken in the 5th round, Micah Hyde.
                          Micah Hyde is a very undersized nose tackle
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #43
                            It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

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                            • #44
                              nm
                              Last edited by pbmax; 08-15-2013, 03:01 PM.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #45
                                McGinn starts out the article by saying -

                                "Two and a half weeks from now the 90-man roster will be slashed to 53. The questions uppermost in many minds are the identity of the No. 2 quarterback, the fates of Mason Crosby and Johnny Jolly and the chances of trading a surplus running back."

                                Apart from Johnny Jolly, I don't give a shit about any of those other things.

                                If we need to depend on our #2 QB, our season is sunk anyway; I expect an NFL kicker to make kicks, if it's Crosby or the other guy, I don't care; and a "surplus RB"?? WTF is that, heretofore we haven't had any RB's since Ahman Green ran out of gas - and the OL hasn't shown any signs of being able to run block the 3 running plays MM calls anyway.

                                Uppermost on my mind are - 1) is MM going to do anything to improve the run game?? - we already have that answer, no 2) is Capers going to play more than 2 DL at a time?? - we already have that answer, no 3) can anyone on the roster play ILB?? - we already have that answer, no.

                                So, we're picking up right where we left off - which was an embarrasing asskicking at the hands of SF. Capers "did his homework" supposedly - so maybe that means we only give up 440 yds of offense, and 175 on the ground... I guess that's progress, and a baby steps victory for you homers.

                                As for the roster... not much drama.
                                wist

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