ROSTER ANALYSIS

[pbmax]

I do not understand McGinn on DJ Williams. Williams came into the League with more experience blocking than Taylor and was expected to be better than his size (he played a conventional in-line TE in college). Has he improved OVER that or is he still the same over achieving for his size blocker?

Hard to imagine he is better than Crabtree or Quarless.

[pbmax]

Agreed. Honestly, I didn't think he had a snowballs chance in hell in making the team. I guessed the guy would play like garbage after being out of the game for so long. Dude has talent.

Part of the impressive part is that he has been getting better, seemingly, as he gets more reps meaning he is perhaps rounding into shape or remembering all his techniques. Or both. He wasn't a standout early in camp.

Had he come in and tossed a few camp bodies around early plus a pass knockdown or two, I would be more skeptical.

He really does still seem to have something. If he is doing it in preseason game 4, I'll be convinced, whether he is on the Packer roster or not.

[Bossman641]

I do not understand McGinn on DJ Williams. Williams came into the League with more experience blocking than Taylor and was expected to be better than his size (he played a conventional in-line TE in college). Has he improved OVER that or is he still the same over achieving for his size blocker?

Hard to imagine he is better than Crabtree or Quarless.

I thought Williams was more of an H-back at Arkansas? Wasn't his scouting report that he was a receiving TE who didn't have the size to be a traditional TE? That's why it's been so surprising to see him struggle catching the ball.

[Joemailman]

I thought Williams was more of an H-back at Arkansas? Wasn't his scouting report that he was a receiving TE who didn't have the size to be a traditional TE? That's why it's been so surprising to see him struggle catching the ball.

I thought he played TE at Arkansas, but was projected as an H-back in the NFL due to lack of height. His pass catching ability, or lack thereof, has been a huge disappointment.

[call_me_ishmael]

Who are the studs of the summer so far?

Sounds like Bahktiari is a very pleasant surprise and will be a decent LT.

Has Nick Perry done much? Man, he has the perfect combination of size and athletic ability (combine). If he ever puts it together... watch out.

Sounds like Finley is having a summer like he did in '09 - where he was a true difference maker.

Sounds like Micah Hyde is always around the ball.

Who else? I haven't been following too much.

[Pugger]

Who are the studs of the summer so far?

Sounds like Bahktiari is a very pleasant surprise and will be a decent LT.

Has Nick Perry done much? Man, he has the perfect combination of size and athletic ability (combine). If he ever puts it together... watch out.

Sounds like Finley is having a summer like he did in '09 - where he was a true difference maker.

Sounds like Micah Hyde is always around the ball.

Who else? I haven't been following too much.

There is a buzz all over the Packer message boards about Lacy and what he can bring to this offense this season.

[pbmax]

I thought Williams was more of an H-back at Arkansas? Wasn't his scouting report that he was a receiving TE who didn't have the size to be a traditional TE? That's why it's been so surprising to see him struggle catching the ball.

He was viewed as too small by many scouts, but he received praise for being a willing blocker. And he had experience carrying out that duty in college. He also got notice in his first camp that he was ahead of most other TEs, esp, Taylor, in that department.

Its just not clear if Bob is simply repeating himself for those who don't remember or if he has continued to get better.

[SkinBasket]

because as worthless as he is as a db, he's very effective on teams. Against the Rams, on one punt coverage, he defeated three blocks, including a double team off the snap, got knocked down and still got up and made the tackle. His dominance opens up opportunities for others on teams to make plays as well. He may be a poop stain, but he's a sweet smelling poop stain, with berry seeds within that blossom into a cornucopia of fruity delights.

This is the same logic that had so many Bibgy boners ramming into the walls of this forum a couple years back. Those morons forgave Bigby's glaring weaknesses and general ineptitude for years based on less than a handful of "BIG HITZZZZZZ!!!" most of which came in preseason games. Likewise, for the last several seasons, Bush will accomplish... something on ST once every couple or six or eight weeks, and he's the best goddamn gunner in the motherhumping league despite the fact that a majority of his time is spent on the ground and overrunning returners. Which is great if the guy decides to turn around and run the wrong direction. Bush will be right there after 10 yards to make sure he has to turn around and go the right way.

There's simply far too much young talent on this team to keep Bush and his pluses, which he brings sporadically, any longer. Investing in our future is our future. Hope and change. No more Bush!

[SkinBasket]

Who else? I haven't been following too much.

Vince. Young.

Superbowl.

[mraynrand]

This is the same logic that had so many Bibgy boners ramming into the walls of this forum a couple years back. Those morons forgave Bigby's glaring weaknesses and general ineptitude for years based on less than a handful of "BIG HITZZZZZZ!!!" most of which came in preseason games. Likewise, for the last several seasons, Bush will accomplish... something on ST once every couple or six or eight weeks, and he's the best goddamn gunner in the motherhumping league despite the fact that a majority of his time is spent on the ground and overrunning returners. Which is great if the guy decides to turn around and run the wrong direction. Bush will be right there after 10 yards to make sure he has to turn around and go the right way.

There's simply far too much young talent on this team to keep Bush and his pluses, which he brings sporadically, any longer. Investing in our future is our future. Hope and change. No more Bush!

the remarkable thing is that Packer coaches keep getting fooled year after year after year. It only took them a couple of years to realize Bigby's limitations. Somehow, with some kind of mystical chicanery, Bush manages to convince them he can play special teams.

[Guiness]

This is the same logic that had so many Bibgy boners ramming into the walls of this forum a couple years back. Those morons forgave Bigby's glaring weaknesses and general ineptitude for years based on less than a handful of "BIG HITZZZZZZ!!!" most of which came in preseason games. Likewise, for the last several seasons, Bush will accomplish... something on ST once every couple or six or eight weeks, and he's the best goddamn gunner in the motherhumping league despite the fact that a majority of his time is spent on the ground and overrunning returners. Which is great if the guy decides to turn around and run the wrong direction. Bush will be right there after 10 yards to make sure he has to turn around and go the right way.

There's simply far too much young talent on this team to keep Bush and his pluses, which he brings sporadically, any longer. Investing in our future is our future. Hope and change. No more Bush!

I can only assume you're being facetious.

[mraynrand]

^^^^^ WTF?

[QBME]

A bad cough could be trouble. Just thinking this through...

LOL...I love dark humor.

[Bossman641]

^^^^^ WTF?

Seconded.....I think I just reached the end of the internet

[run pMc]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-camp-report-monday-at-a-glance-b9979106z1-220297691.html

Graham Harrell is still the frontrunner for the backup QB job. I think they keep 2 QB on the 53 -- Young gets cut, Coleman goes on the PS.

"In practice, Mulumba and Neal represented the No. 2 outside linebackers behind Clay Matthews and Nick Perry. Moses was with the third team."
I think Moses and Palmer get cut, with Palmer a PS candidate.

"M.D. Jennings continues to line up ahead of Jerron McMillian at safety opposite Morgan Burnett".

"The order in which the RBs got reps were: Harris, Eddie Lacy, Johnathan Franklin, Alex Green and James Starks. Harris and Lacy got most of the reps with the No. 1 offense."
Lacy and Franklin are locks this year because of draft status; Harris, Green and Starks are fighting for one or two spots, and I expect this competition will go down to the last game.