ROSTER ANALYSIS

[mraynrand]

I don't know about this. McGinn describes McKnight as an older version of Franklin, skill set wise. If TT doesn't think Franklin is as good as a Jets castoff who cleared waivers, what do other professional evaluators think of Franklin?

McKnight has baggage. Franklin can play teams, catch and run on third downs. Just don't ask him to pass pro.

[mraynrand]

They could cut Young and put Coleman on the roster as placeholder. I think Young is the backup QB for this year. But it's not closing time yet, and TT will be looking around the bar for more prospects this weekend.

If you believe that "scout" that McGinn cited, VY hasn't a damn clue out there. If true, how does McCarthy work with a backup who can't run his offense and just wings it? VY is an enormous tease. All the physical ability in the world, great arm and pretty ball, but ??? nothing between the ears?? He's like Warren Moon after a TIA*.




TIA = transient ischemic attack or mini-stroke

[Harlan Huckleby]

I agree I would keep Green as primary down backup plus guy who could get you through 3rd downs and play some special teams. Stakrs would be gone, sacrificed for the chance to develop Franklin.

Starks is a better runner from scrimmage than Green. With DuJuan Harris out, Starks made the team. Remember, Lacy is bound to miss some time, he always does, most RBs miss some games.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you believe that "scout" that McGinn cited, VY hasn't a damn clue out there.

No, I don't believe that scout. When people get a bad impression of somebody, they mostly hold-on to that impression for life. Plenty of people have judged Vince Young very harshly, but that is because they start with hardened, pre-conceived views.

[pbmax]

Starks is a better runner from scrimmage than Green. With DuJuan Harris out, Starks made the team. Remember, Lacy is bound to miss some time, he always does, most RBs miss some games.

Starks can only do Harris' job on 1st and 2nd down and has repeated health trouble of his own. You then have no true backup on 3rd down when Rodgers health is at stake.

Green can run inside like Lacy AND help on 3rd down PLUS special teams. I don't want Starks gone, but Green is the better match for openings on the team.

[mraynrand]

No, I don't believe that scout. When people get a bad impression of somebody, they mostly hold-on to that impression for life. Plenty of people have judged Vince Young very harshly, but that is because they start with hardened, pre-conceived views.

If the Packers cut him, then you're most likely off the mark (but still could be right; a few weeks isn't enough time for even braniac to internalize Stubby's manifesto of a playbook). If they keep him you're most likely right (although you could be wrong - they may just be that desperate), and Stubby must believe that he's retaining something and can fill in. I hope they keep him. I hope he never plays.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Starks can only do Harris' job on 1st and 2nd down and has repeated health trouble of his own. You then have no true backup on 3rd down when Rodgers health is at stake.

Green can run inside like Lacy AND help on 3rd down PLUS special teams. I don't want Starks gone, but Green is the better match for openings on the team.

Starks is better than Green on 1st and 2nd down. Ding-ding-ding - team made. Lacy could easily get hurt.

Green's versatility counts, but he is competing with Franklin and now McKnight for that role.

If I have to cut one of Green, Franklin and McKnight..... Oh hell, I have no idea how good McKnight is, but probably Franklin in trouble.

[mraynrand]

Starks can only do Harris' job on 1st and 2nd down and has repeated health trouble of his own. You then have no true backup on 3rd down when Rodgers health is at stake.

Green can run inside like Lacy AND help on 3rd down PLUS special teams. I don't want Starks gone, but Green is the better match for openings on the team.

And Starks may be available, like Ryan Grant last year! (note: hopefully not, because I can't take any more injuries!)

[mraynrand]

Sorry Harlan, you're most likely wrong. VY is gone.

[Harlan Huckleby]

And Starks may be available, like Ryan Grant last year!

No way. Starks is a poor-man's Adrian Peterson. Well, abject poverty. I can see MN using him as a backup. Starks is pretty good, IMO, as a pure hard runner.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sorry Harlan, you're most likely wrong. VY is gone.

WEll, life is a journey. There's always the CFL and Arena League.


Uhh Ohhh, does this mean that Johnny Jolly is gone too? McGinn is 1-0.

[mraynrand]

No way. Starks is a poor-man's Adrian Peterson. Well, abject poverty. I can see MN using him as a backup. Starks is pretty good, IMO, as a pure hard runner.

Hey that's what a said a few days ago - that MN would pick him up. Scary that we are on the same page...

[mraynrand]

WEll, life is a journey. There's always the CFL and Arena League.

Coaching the Lingerie League. Vince can focus on the ladies since his playbook will only have two pages.

[Harlan Huckleby]

BTW, if TT is looking for a trade, why didn't he wait until 4:59 to cut Young?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hey that's what a said a few days ago - that MN would pick him up. Scary that we are on the same page...

I probably stole the idea from you.