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  • #31
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    I take back the part about the return for TD. Probably would have been tackled. Still a good move to pick the ball up.

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    (right after it's knocked away from Bush, Poppinga has a better chance to "Fall on it" and fails. Not so easy on a frozen field)
    That could have been the one I was thinking of, but I thought I remembered him in more open territory.

    When Bretsky gets here to complain, he'll remember. He used the fumble I am thinking about to egg red on to new heights of anti-bushwood.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
      The reason it was knocked out is because he stopped to pick it up. If he continues with his motion he gets to the ball first and cleanly.

      I can blame whoever I want for the loss.

      I sure wouldn't want to piss off the BF crowd and choose him now would I?
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      Perhaps, perhaps not. I didn't see a full stop, and certainly it was a bang-bang play. My point is that "Falling on it" was no guarantee for recovery either - you actually had a confirming example of this (Poppinga) in the same play!



      feel free - I can also say you're wrong! I still blame the hotdog vendor.



      Keep it in the Favre thread!
      Both wrong.


      Slocum.
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      • #33
        What actually got me most about the article...8 years! Guy's been with the team for a long time. Most journeymen don't stick around that long.

        Maybe he'll make the Packers HOF - I'd be able to hear Red's scream from here!
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        Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by swede View Post
          The genesis of the Bush hate was a failed pass defense in a very, very big game quite a long time ago, wasn't it? It seems like it might have been against the Saints, but I cannot remember if it was late season with playoff implications or a playoff exit. I just remember that he allowed a TD in crunch time. It was a TD thrown into a very tight window at the front pylon of the endzone with Bush in tight coverage. It wasn't like he'd been faked out of his jockstrap or let his guy run free. Help me out if you remember the play. Or send me back to the nursing home in time for the applesauce cocktail if my faded recollections are the dementia talking.

          I have a hard time remembering what else made him such a villain. I think he got dinked and dunked on repeatedly in a game the season after he got all the bad face time on Sports Center following the big TD. Mostly, as in Kuhn's case, we just get tired of a loyal journeyman like Bush taking a place away from the Next Big Deal.
          Was that the loss to the Steelers in 2009?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            Was that the loss to the Steelers in 2009?
            Good call. That was Josh Bell. not Jarrett Bush failing at the end. But check out the FIRST big reception by the Steelers.

            [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by swede View Post
              The genesis of the Bush hate was a failed pass defense in a very, very big game quite a long time ago, wasn't it? It seems like it might have been against the Saints, but I cannot remember if it was late season with playoff implications or a playoff exit. I just remember that he allowed a TD in crunch time. It was a TD thrown into a very tight window at the front pylon of the endzone with Bush in tight coverage. It wasn't like he'd been faked out of his jockstrap or let his guy run free. Help me out if you remember the play. Or send me back to the nursing home in time for the applesauce cocktail if my faded recollections are the dementia talking.

              I have a hard time remembering what else made him such a villain. I think he got dinked and dunked on repeatedly in a game the season after he got all the bad face time on Sports Center following the big TD. Mostly, as in Kuhn's case, we just get tired of a loyal journeyman like Bush taking a place away from the Next Big Deal.
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
              Was that the loss to the Steelers in 2009?
              It sounds like the final play against the Steelers in 2009. But that was Josh Bell, not Jarrett Bush.

              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #37
                Ah, the famous Steelers loss! Does anyone else recall Jolly not being held on that TD pass?

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                • #38
                  The Zebras were swallowing their whistles all day on the interior holds, so we really can't be upset that they didn't call that one, even though it was so obvious. Also, that's pretty fucking good coverage by Bell on the play.

                  Besides, even if they'd called it, the Steelers still would have had one more shot. The game can't end on an accepted penalty.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                    The Zebras were swallowing their whistles all day on the interior holds, so we really can't be upset that they didn't call that one, even though it was so obvious. Also, that's pretty fucking good coverage by Bell on the play.

                    Besides, even if they'd called it, the Steelers still would have had one more shot. The game can't end on an accepted penalty.
                    Isn't that just if the penalty is on the defense?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Isn't that just if the penalty is on the defense?
                      AFAIK it is.

                      You'd have to pretty much commit a felony to get an offensive hold on the last play of a one score game though. Pretty much the same situation as an Offensive PI on a Hail Mary, and we know how that goes...and that's league mandated, the replacement refs came right out and said they were pretty much told to let everything go in that situation.
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                      • #41
                        Whitt talking about Bush:

                        "Everybody wonders why he's still here. Fans should realize he is just tougher than most of the people he is in rooms with. They can't withstand him. They have more ability than him and they might be better football players, but he's always available and ready to go, every day. I just know he's good for any football team that he's on, and I'm glad he's on ours."

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                        • #42
                          good comment on Bush. The guy is clueless in the secondary, but he's just one of those guys that gives superior effort all the time. I love that
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #43
                            Let's replace Bush with "Rudy!"

                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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