Surprising Final Cut

[Pugger]

Ryan Pickett. 33 year old over paid NT that only plays a handful of snaps per game since we run nickel most of the time. With youth movement on the DL Pickett gets the axe.

Usually TT and McM will cut an older player if we have a younger, cheaper, better one waiting in the wings. However, at NT you need more than just Raji so I doubt Pick is going anywhere.

[Iron Mike]

Frank Zombo.

Wait, WHUT???

[Zool]

Sherrod would be surprising. Shocking is a bit of a stretch for an adjective.

Kuhn should be cut tomorrow.

[MadScientist]

Ryan Pickett. 33 year old over paid NT that only plays a handful of snaps per game since we run nickel most of the time. With youth movement on the DL Pickett gets the axe.

don't see that. There's tread left on those tires, he was effective last year.

That sort of thinking leads to unproductive old guys on a roster. However Pickett stays because there is nobody else. If Jolly was a nose tackle then Pickett might possibly see the turk.

My vote is for Graham Harrell. Young will be the backup this year because he has a better arm, more experience, and will have enough time to learn the playbook. Coleman has improved but will still be able to get signed to the practice squad.

[pack4to84]

That sort of thinking leads to unproductive old guys on a roster. However Pickett stays because there is nobody else. If Jolly was a nose tackle then Pickett might possibly see the turk.

My vote is for Graham Harrell. Young will be the backup this year because he has a better arm, more experience, and will have enough time to learn the playbook. Coleman has improved but will still be able to get signed to the practice squad.

TT draft Raji to play NT but when we lost jolley we need a pass rushing DE. Pickett wasnt that player so they switched pickett to NT and Raji to DE. Now we have depth at DE again making Pickett expendable. Raji slowed down last year making him more of a NT then DE.

[Joemailman]

TT draft Raji to play NT but when we lost jolley we need a pass rushing DE. Pickett wasnt that player so they switched pickett to NT and Raji to DE. Now we have depth at DE again making Pickett expendable. Raji slowed down last year making him more of a NT then DE.

You think that's how it works? When a DE slows down, they make him a NT? Um....no. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with being able to anchor in the middle.

[pack4to84]

You think that's how it works? When a DE slows down, they make him a NT? Um....no. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with being able to anchor in the middle.

Raji is playing out of position as a DE because he had a high motor. That is no longer the case. His motor slowed down last year. So now he is more suited to play the postion he was drafted for NT.

They tried to limit Raji's snaps last year hoping he would be more productive. Did it work? No. He still under performed. His motor had slowed down.

Wouldn't you want to find out what your 1st rd draft pick could do at the position he was draft for before he becomes a free agent?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Raji is playing out of position as a DE because he had a high motor. That is no longer the case. His motor slowed down last year. So now he is more suited to play the postion he was drafted for NT.

They tried to limit Raji's snaps last year hoping he would be more productive. Did it work? No. He still under performed. His motor had slowed down.

Wouldn't you want to find out what your 1st rd draft pick could do at the position he was draft for before he becomes a free agent?

I'm not sure that Raji's motor is misfiring, but I agree he does seem to be better suited for nose than end. He's had his greatest success there, at least in my memory. He's short, stout and quick. I know that 3-4 DEs can be stocky, so I guess he isn't "out of position" anywhere on the D line, but I like him better sliding off blocks inside.

[pbmax]

Raji is NOT suited for 3-4 DE and his snaps at that position have declined. His biggest asset is quickness (not speed) and that negates his effectiveness against long armed and tall tackles out wide where they can be setup at the snap a yard deep.

His best position would be 4-3 DT at 3 tech. In order to alleviate this problem and keep Raji and Pickett at their best spots, Capers has his Eagle Oakie front where Pickett is a 1tech NT and Raji lines up opposite of him at 3 tech. This looks exactly like a 4-3 defense except the DE next to Raji is an OLB.

Versus the 49ers in the playoff game, that meant Walden was the unblocked or crashing DE and Jones was the ILB who filled. Part of Neal's role this year might be to add some beef to that particular equation though Perry will not be able to be blocked by Delanie Walker.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think Kuhn is safe. I read he's making $1.8M this year, so he's affordable. I think Harrell is probably the most likely of the list to be cut. If Franklin wasn't a 4th round pick, he'd probably be the most likely. But when a guy is that high of a pick, there's something the team saw in him that most teams aren't going to ignore with one bad training camp.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I think Kuhn is safe. I read he's making $1.8M this year, so he's affordable.

Well, Tyler Dunne seems to think Kuhn is safe:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/talk-of-fullbacks-exit-in-nfl-a-bit-premature-packers-john-kuhn-says-b9979906z1-220451251.html

Kuhn is a very unthrilling fullback. He doesn't blow-up defenders with his blocking. Forget about him as a runner, in any situation. I guess he is just good enough at several things - run & pass blocking, receiving - to be serviceable. He is definitely better than all the guys they brought-in to challenge him, Quincy Johnson and others.

Tyler Dunne's article mainly makes the case for keeping a fullback. But is Kuhn a good fullback? I guess I don't see enough other fullbacks to know how he rates.

[mraynrand]

Well, Tyler Dunne seems to think Kuhn is safe:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/talk-of-fullbacks-exit-in-nfl-a-bit-premature-packers-john-kuhn-says-b9979906z1-220451251.html

Kuhn is a very unthrilling fullback. He doesn't blow-up defenders with his blocking. Forget about him as a runner, in any situation. I guess he is just good enough at several things - run & pass blocking, receiving - to be serviceable. He is definitely better than all the guys they brought-in to challenge him, Quincy Johnson and others.

Tyler Dunne's article mainly makes the case for keeping a fullback. But is Kuhn a good fullback? I guess I don't see enough other fullbacks to know how he rates.

at least he's better than Captain Caveman, Jonathan Amosa, but that's not saying much

[Fritz]

At this point, would it be a surprise if Crosby were cut?

I'd like to see them give him Friday night's game.

And Datone Jones, injuring his left foot again? Kee-Rist.

[billy_oliver880]

vince young will get cut....hasn't shown nearly enough to stick...granted the other two are dogshit

[Patler]

At this point, would it be a surprise if Crosby were cut?

I think it will be more of a surprise if he doesn't get cut.