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  • #46
    I am greatly disappointed that Harrell has been so inconsistent. He's had plenty of time to understand the system and develop, but he is not a decent backup.

    Is it too little time for Young to get his rhythm and legs back? Can Coleman earn the Packers' trust in two weeks?

    Uh, Ted, it might be wise to invest in a QB in next year's draft. One who is less of a project than a seventh rounder. In the meantime, let's pray for Rodgers's good health.
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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    • #47
      The GBP have had pretty good success developing late round projects at QB, both under Holmgren and McCarthy: Hasselbeck, Detmer, Brooks, Flynn....I would give Coleman another year before giving up on him completely.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
        The GBP have had pretty good success developing late round projects at QB, both under Holmgren and McCarthy: Hasselbeck, Detmer, Brooks, Flynn....I would give Coleman another year before giving up on him completely.
        I didn't mean to say I was giving up on Coleman - sorry if that's how it looked. What I meant was that you can't just bank on one guy developing at a certain pace, and I think they kinda did that with Harrell. He isn't working out, and Coleman's not ready, so they're in the lurch.

        If you draft a guy next year - maybe slightly less developmentally challenged, let's say as a pun - then you have two guys to work with.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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        • #49
          Did I mention that Pickett is over paid. His salary cap hit this year is 6.7 mil. Ouch for someone who plays only on running downs or goal line. I believe if he is cut the Packers would save 5.4 mil.

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          • #50
            Jeremy Ross will not make the cut. As a receiver, he is no better than others at that position. As a PR/KR, he is prone to muff and fumble. Micah Hyde is an adequate PR/KR but he has great judgment and is less likely to cause turnovers.
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #51
              Originally posted by pack4to84 View Post
              Did I mention that Pickett is over paid. His salary cap hit this year is 6.7 mil. Ouch for someone who plays only on running downs or goal line. I believe if he is cut the Packers would save 5.4 mil.
              He's a FA after this year and they aren't really in need of cap room right now, so there's little chance Pickett gets cut.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pack4to84 View Post
                Did I mention that Pickett is over paid. His salary cap hit this year is 6.7 mil. Ouch for someone who plays only on running downs or goal line. I believe if he is cut the Packers would save 5.4 mil.
                Cut the only 2-gap player you have on the roster, when you supposedly run a 3-4??

                Yeah, that's brilliant.

                All he does is play on run downs?? As if stopping the run were easy or unnecessary??
                wist

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                  Jeremy Ross will not make the cut. As a receiver, he is no better than others at that position. As a PR/KR, he is prone to muff and fumble. Micah Hyde is an adequate PR/KR but he has great judgment and is less likely to cause turnovers.
                  Ross happyfooting under a punt is more exciting though - and the game is supposed to be exciting, right??

                  When Ross was preparing to muff that punt against the Niners - he's looking up, trying to gauge the ball... weren't you expecting him to fuck it up?? I know I was... it was "exciting", right??
                  wist

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                    Ross happyfooting under a punt is more exciting though - and the game is supposed to be exciting, right??

                    When Ross was preparing to muff that punt against the Niners - he's looking up, trying to gauge the ball... weren't you expecting him to fuck it up?? I know I was... it was "exciting", right??
                    Desmond Howard was exciting and sure-handed. (I only remember one miscue.) I'll take a guy with good judgement and sure hands every time. Field position and turnovers decide more games than punt returns to the house.
                    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                      Ross happyfooting under a punt is more exciting though - and the game is supposed to be exciting, right??

                      When Ross was preparing to muff that punt against the Niners - he's looking up, trying to gauge the ball... weren't you expecting him to fuck it up?? I know I was... it was "exciting", right??
                      If you can predict when a punt returner will muff it, you should be a scout.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        If you can predict when a punt returner will muff it, you should be a scout.
                        My gut should be a scout. Anytime anyone's back there but Cobb I get this gut feeling... When Ross is back there, even bicarb doesn't help.
                        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                          My gut should be a scout. Anytime anyone's back there but Cobb I get this gut feeling... When Ross is back there, even bicarb doesn't help.
                          sounds like general panic. You need a discerning gut, like Wist. Apparently his gut can detect various nuances in the eyes and comportment of kick returners that allows him to predict, with perfect accuracy, which punts will be muffed. Kind of like those Packer fans years ago who could detect whether or not Favre would have a bad game or not by 'the look on his face' during warmups. There's a shortage of psychiatrists in the USA - these prescient people owe it to their country to sign up for duty.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #58
                            You're right. General panic...except with Cobb. LOL
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                              If you can predict when a punt returner will muff it, you should be a scout.
                              Big stage, big game, untested rookie being thrown out as if an afterthought??

                              What could possibly go wrong?? lol...
                              wist

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                              • #60
                                I felt pretty good about Ross actually. He's been a returner before and he looked sure handed up to that point. I think he's sure handed, but the moment might have been too big for him. Something a little experience can solve.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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