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Seriously? You're worried about a pittance for Glenn? He was a freaking lunatic who took a dive every reception and came out injured more times than the rest of the team combined. Only Parcells could ever get her to play halfway decent. Shermy paid a #4 for him - not exactly a huge loss.Originally posted by KYPack View PostHe also got a pittance for Glenn (a 6th) and pissed it away to SF .
Lets compare a Thompson draft where the Packers are similarly situated: 2008
Nelson
Brohm
Lee
Finley
Thompson
Sitton
Giacomini
Flynn
Swain
So there's virtually no value there except Nelson, Finley and Sitton. Shermy had Wells and Williams come out of the 2004 draft. Half you bozos like Wells over Finley, and many think Nelson is simply a product of the offense. Sitton is a serviceable starter, much like Williams. So, give Thompson credit, he got one more solid starter than Shermy. If Nelson or Sitton hadn't worked out, I guess they fire him too."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Well, there's Matt Flynn. The guy's made some money, but certainly isn't prospering. 3/6 for 19 yards and 2(!) INTs against the Bears tonight. And he was playing with the 1's!--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Standards have fallen, we are in danger of a race to the bottom. Will Blackmon, Ty Detmer, Matt Flynn, Joe Andruzzi, Tony Moll can generously be said to have prospered. But Leshon Johnson? Whisper Goodman? They went on to abject poverty. Esera Tuaolo and Lester Archambeau - maybe, I think I remember ARchambeau being a starter somewhere, but I have my suspicians on both.
I thought I set a certain tone in this thread when I came up with the names Tim Harris & Ted Hendricks. But no, losers are drawn to losers. I'm reminded of Charlie Brown and his cherished baseball card of Marv Throneberry.
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Buckley had a pretty good career after the Pack. I always thought of him as a bust.Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View PostTbuck - Played as a journeyman for 11 years after he left the Packers, and even won a SB ring while with the Patriots
Originally posted by Wikiwikiwowowpedia View Post...He is the only player with 50+ interceptions to never make a pro bowl. In a game against Cincinnati in 1992, his rookie season, Buckley set what remains a current record as the youngest player to return a punt for a touchdown in NFL history (21 years, 105 days). That was his only punt return for a touchdown of his career. In 1996, he led the league in interception return yards with 164.
Terrell Buckley had at least one interception in 13 consecutive seasons. In the 2001 AFC Championship game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Buckley had an intereception in the 24-17 win. He earned a Super Bowl ring 2 weeks later in the win over the St. Louis Rams.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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Giacomini is a starterOriginally posted by mraynrand View PostSeriously? You're worried about a pittance for Glenn? He was a freaking lunatic who took a dive every reception and came out injured more times than the rest of the team combined. Only Parcells could ever get her to play halfway decent. Shermy paid a #4 for him - not exactly a huge loss.
Lets compare a Thompson draft where the Packers are similarly situated: 2008
Nelson
Brohm
Lee
Finley
Thompson
Sitton
Giacomini
Flynn
Swain
So there's virtually no value there except Nelson, Finley and Sitton. Shermy had Wells and Williams come out of the 2004 draft. Half you bozos like Wells over Finley, and many think Nelson is simply a product of the offense. Sitton is a serviceable starter, much like Williams. So, give Thompson credit, he got one more solid starter than Shermy. If Nelson or Sitton hadn't worked out, I guess they fire him too.
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When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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I think the vitriol is over trading two players for a punter. The rest is just icing on the cake. I also think you're going to have a hard time defending the position that Sherman was just as good a GM as Thompson is.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostSeriously? You're worried about a pittance for Glenn? He was a freaking lunatic who took a dive every reception and came out injured more times than the rest of the team combined. Only Parcells could ever get her to play halfway decent. Shermy paid a #4 for him - not exactly a huge loss.
Lets compare a Thompson draft where the Packers are similarly situated: 2008
Nelson
Brohm
Lee
Finley
Thompson
Sitton
Giacomini
Flynn
Swain
So there's virtually no value there except Nelson, Finley and Sitton. Shermy had Wells and Williams come out of the 2004 draft. Half you bozos like Wells over Finley, and many think Nelson is simply a product of the offense. Sitton is a serviceable starter, much like Williams. So, give Thompson credit, he got one more solid starter than Shermy. If Nelson or Sitton hadn't worked out, I guess they fire him too.- Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.
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Bill CurryOne time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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Babe ParilliOne time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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I would never claim Sherman was as good as Thompson. Ever. But Shermy had three years as GM and it was a mixed bag. And if you look at Ron Wolf's years as GM, 1999 and 2001 stand out as particularly awful. But Wolf brought in Favre and in 2000 he had one the best years a GM can ever have, with I think 5 quality starters drafted and trading garbage for Ahman Green. Thompson has hiring Stubby, drafting Rodgers and Matthews, and everything else he did to make a consistent winner and Superbowl champion. Shermy was marginal at best, but it was only a small sample. But, much like Ray Rhodes, sometimes a small sample is all you need: "I think it was the worst decision I made, quite honestly" Bob Harlan said about giving Shermy the GM job. And it was the difficulty dealing with McKenzie that Harlan cited as being the key event that made up his mind. McKenzie has a superbowl ring; Shermy, uh no.Originally posted by Smeefers View PostI think the vitriol is over trading two players for a punter. The rest is just icing on the cake. I also think you're going to have a hard time defending the position that Sherman was just as good a GM as Thompson is."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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