GET OUTTA MY HEAD BOB!!!

[bobblehead]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/for-packers-more-tackling-in-camp-could-be-best-medicine-for-rash-of-injuries-b9985208z1-221490581.html

Ok, how many times have I made this point. MM doesn't practice reality. He won't practice in the cold when the game will be played in the cold, and he doesn't hit and tackle enough in practice which leads to guys being unprepared to tackle and hit in real games.

McGinn, obviously in need of a new schtick, has been reading my posts. I should sue.

[swede]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...221490581.html

Ok, how many times have I made this point. MM doesn't practice reality. He won't practice in the cold when the game will be played in the cold, and he doesn't hit and tackle enough in practice which leads to guys being unprepared to tackle and hit in real games.

McGinn, obviously in need of a new schtick, has been reading my posts. I should sue.

The Packers play in pads up to the limit described by the CBA, yes?

After a long hot summer of Bob doing good journalism he is returning to the role of provocateur.

[pbmax]

Would love to see a breakdown of net injury gain between players injured by not hitting versus players injured by hitting.

[bobblehead]

I simply believe if you don't practice hitting, then go full speed on sunday you get hurt. I have always believed it. Just like a punter who never catches a snap in the cold and wind goes outside in chicago and can't catch a snap.

If you don't hit at 90% in camp and realize that "hey, my head was out of position by 1 degree" or "shit, I need to square up so my knee isn't taking the pressure" then when the game comes and you MUST do it 100% you get hurt.

To me Bob isn't provacative on this, he is simply parroting what I have said for 5 years.....and no, I don't believe in luck. There is no way on earth this team is this "unlucky" with regard to injuries. Our slow starts, our inability to run early every year is a direct result of not being ready for the contact of an NFL game. Obviously I love MM and TT for the entire body of work, but that doesn't mean they can't be criticized.

[pbmax]

I simply believe if you don't practice hitting, then go full speed on sunday you get hurt. I have always believed it. Just like a punter who never catches a snap in the cold and wind goes outside in chicago and can't catch a snap.

If you don't hit at 90% in camp and realize that "hey, my head was out of position by 1 degree" or "shit, I need to square up so my knee isn't taking the pressure" then when the game comes and you MUST do it 100% you get hurt.

To me Bob isn't provacative on this, he is simply parroting what I have said for 5 years.....and no, I don't believe in luck. There is no way on earth this team is this "unlucky" with regard to injuries. Our slow starts, our inability to run early every year is a direct result of not being ready for the contact of an NFL game. Obviously I love MM and TT for the entire body of work, but that doesn't mean they can't be criticized.

I agree with your last paragraph and might even buy the logic that not hitting much in camp could increase injuries in the regular season.

But Bob's premise is entirely on camp injuries.

[bobblehead]

Nah, his premise is on injuries. Games, live scrimmages, whenever. When it is time to hit, we aren't prepared for it.

[pbmax]

Nah, his premise is on injuries. Games, live scrimmages, whenever. When it is time to hit, we aren't prepared for it.

No, his premise is that by early August the Packers have taken themselves out of contention. And he wants not just hitting, which he admits happens in the Packers camp.

He wants tackling. Taking the runner to the ground is what he specifically mentions. The other teams he mentions he talks not of hitting segments, but of live tackling segments.

Bulaga tore his ACL in a scrimmage pass block. Same routine he had performed before in camp during one one ones and in half line drills.

[Joemailman]

On a somewhat related note:

DuJuan Harris (knee) and Casey Hayward (hamstring) were both on PUP for several weeks due to injuries they suffered on their own prior to training camp. They both returned to practice last week and I believe suffered repeat injuries in the game Friday night. Bad luck, or was there a misdiagnosis as to there readiness to come back?

[Fritz]

No, his premise is that by early August the Packers have taken themselves out of contention. And he wants not just hitting, which he admits happens in the Packers camp.

He wants tackling. Taking the runner to the ground is what he specifically mentions. The other teams he mentions he talks not of hitting segments, but of live tackling segments.

Bulaga tore his ACL in a scrimmage pass block. Same routine he had performed before in camp during one one ones and in half line drills.

Maybe if he'd been tackling someone instead he wouldn't have gotten hurt.

But on a serious note, it surely would be possible to categorize injuries incurred by various NFL teams - those that happen during individual drills ("I started into my cut, and the knee just buckled"), those that happened during contact drills ("The rookie FA from Tallahassee State rolled up on my ankle"), and those that occurred for teams that did the live tackling bit. Then you'd have to figure out how much of each each team did. I think maybe that would then indicate whether live tackling stuff helps, hurts, or doesn't matter.

Or something like that.

[MadtownPacker]

I agree with Bobble. A fighter spars and gets hit to prepare for a fight, Harlan Huckleby does anus stretches to get ready for a Friday night, and Fritz punches himself in the balls to ready himself for the ladies at the bar. Pain should be practiced also.

[George Cumby]

I agree with Bobble. A fighter spars and gets hit to prepare for a fight, Harlan Huckleby does anus stretches to get ready for a Friday night, and Fritz punches himself in the balls to ready himself for the ladies at the bar. Pain should be practiced also.

And you let the old lady cuff you and throw in the back of the school bus preparing for....... Never mind................

[pbmax]

I agree with Bobble. A fighter spars and gets hit to prepare for a fight, Harlan Huckleby does anus stretches to get ready for a Friday night, and Fritz punches himself in the balls to ready himself for the ladies at the bar. Pain should be practiced also.

If a fighter gets hurt before his fight, they postpone it. And he practices with a bubble around his head.

[Upnorth]

I agree with Bobble. A fighter spars and gets hit to prepare for a fight, Harlan Huckleby does anus stretches to get ready for a Friday night, and Fritz punches himself in the balls to ready himself for the ladies at the bar. Pain should be practiced also.

I was never any good at boxing but I was frequently asked to be a sparring partner. Never did we intentionaly hit hard. The one getting ready for the fight sure hit hard though as my slightly crooked nose proves.

[King Friday]

Well, since 18 other NFL teams also refuse to do live tackling, I guess I could reasonably assume that 18 other teams must have atrocious injury situations this preseason. However, Bobby did not note that all those other NFL teams also experienced high rates of injury. So why does the lack of live tackling ONLY hurt the Packers?

Honestly, I'm wondering if it is more about diet and/or conditioning than live tackling. I really don't see how numerous muscle strains can be prevented by doing live tackling drills.

[denverYooper]