Here comes the cuts

[wist43]

Miller or Boyd? Who cares. I watched all four preseason games, I don't see what all the fuse is about with Miller.

Miller showed very well - seriously doubt he will clear waivers. Boyd showed less than nothing. TT just kept him b/c he was a draft pick. In anything I've seen of Boyd - going back to college games I looked at of him, I have yet to see him make a single play, or get off a single block.

You don't cut superior players, and keep inferior players, just to save face over a low round draft pick.

This was stupid on top of shit.

[pbmax]

I think Boyd vs Miller is the wrong argument here. If my count is correct, TT kept 8 OL and 8 DL. Given the relative talent level of the 2 groups, he could have kept 9 DL and 7 OL. It's hard to justify keeping 8 on the OL. Only 6 were really worth keeping, although I agree you have to keep 7, at least until Sherrod is ready to play. I don't have a problem so much with keeping Boyd. The Packers are a draft and develop team. Some guys need more than a month to develop. I just find it hard to justify keeping both Van Roten and Taylor.

Taylor is a mauler. Gives them something they don't have otherwise. While I bet DL get hurt with more frequency than OL, the 8th lineman for the Packers O will get more snaps than the 8th D lineman. Neither is going to be active though.

[pbmax]

Miller had two years to make the Bears and the first season made the active roster for one game and the practice squad for the other fifteen. Its not clear but looks like he did not get claimed after he was cut in 2012 final roster cutdown. Packers picked him up off the street in October of 2012.

So rather than just assume bad faith on Thompson's part, could we surmise that there is demand for Boyd's skill set and measurables (5th round pick) beyond that for Miller's good preseason games against backups?

Maybe Ted knows what he is doing and what it will take to slide someone to the PS?


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#Packers had 12 TFLs in the preseason last year. Had 24 this year.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Taylor is a mauler.

The exact word used to describe Allen Barbre, as I recall.

I didn't notice any mauled defensive linemen in the preseason 2nd halves.

[Harlan Huckleby]

So Coleman seems to make it, eh? Most expected him PS bound. I wonder if they're doing a shuffle to wait until others get their squad set up, then release him?

ding ding ding! He is placeholder until somebody better is acquired.

[Harlan Huckleby]

who gets cut to make room?

Coleman moves to practice squad.

They will try to find somebody better than Vince Young, but Vinny could return for a stint.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Miller showed very well - seriously doubt he will clear waivers. Boyd showed less than nothing.

I agree with this, but it's hard for us to evaluate. Maybe Boyd has the power to match up with first string offensive linemen. That dreaded "potential" word. Miller might just be the tallest midget.

It will be interesting to see where each of these guys' careers go. And I am just petty enough to keep track.

[wist43]

I agree with this, but it's hard for us to evaluate. Maybe Boyd has the power to match up with first string offensive linemen. That dreaded "potential" word. Miller might just be the tallest midget.

It will be interesting to see where each of these guys' careers go. And I am just petty enough to keep track.

lol... well, works for me - 2 years hence, let's see a report

Pretty sure I can pencil Boyd in for a 0 - didn't think he even warranted a draft pick.

[Pugger]

Don't know if anyone's posted this. NOTABLE CUTS http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...le-roster-cuts

It's the roughest time of year in the NFL.

Cuts are underway as teams had until 6 p.m. ET on Saturday to reduce their rosters from 75 to 53 players. You can get the complete list on the roster cuts tracker, but Around The League will keep a running tally of the biggest names right here.

Tim Tebow, New England Patriots quarterback: The Patriots decided they were better off with only two quarterbacks on the roster, and a developmental quarterback possibly going to the practice squad. It's hard to imagine Tebow getting a better chance to keep his career going. It's quite possible that this is the end for him.
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Jonathan Dwyer, Pittsburgh Steelers running back: This was among Saturday's biggest surprises. Dwyer was cut loose despite an improved preseason and Le'Veon Bell's injury. Felix Jones remains on the roster.

Vince Young, Green Bay Packers quarterback: This was a small surprise following Graham Harrell's release. The Packers will either roll with B.J. Coleman as the backup or sign someone off waivers.

Robert Meachem, San Diego Chargers wide receiver: Meachem costs the Chargers $6.875 million this year in dead cap money, but he was of no use for them. He'll go down as one of the worst free agent signings of the last five years.

Antoine Winfield, Seattle Seahawks cornerback: This is why we called the Seahawks the deepest roster in the league. It was reported early in the day that Winfield would be cut, then Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com reported that he would retire. He'll go down as one of the most underrated cornerbacks of his generation.

Brady Quinn, Seattle Seahawks quarterback: Tarvaris Jackson beat him out for the backup job, and the Seahawks only kept two quarterbacks. He could land with a team like Buffalo.

Thaddeus Lewis, Buffalo Bills quarterback: Buffalo only has two quarterbacks on the roster, and rookie EJ Manuel is injured.

David Gettis, Carolina Panthers wide receiver: He injured himself during pregame warmups before the last preseason game. Armanti Edwards and Domenik Hixon both made the team.

Brandon Bogotay and Shayne Graham, Cleveland Browns kicker: It's not often that a team has no kickers on the roster. We're going to go ahead and predict that changes before Week 1.

Marvin Austin, David Carr, and Ryan Torain, New York Giants: Austin only last two years after getting taken in the second round. Torain looked like a potential backup after Andre Brown's injury. Brown made the team. Carr could land elsewhere. Wide receiver Ramses Barden was also placed on injured reserve. Mike Patterson made the team.

Ben Ijalana and Drake Nevis, Indianapolis Colts: These were the second-round and third-round picks in the Polians' last draft in the Colts. Yikes.

Bobby Rainey and Tandon Doss, Baltimore Ravens: Rainey's release means the Ravens are only carrying two running backs. That will surely change. They kept seven wide receivers, including rookies Aaron Mallette and Marlon Brown.

Austin Collie, San Francisco 49ers wide receiver: Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports the former Indianapolis Colts won't make the team. At least he stayed healthy in camp.

Ryan Lilja, Denver Broncos: Peyton Manning's former teammates' comeback was a nice story, but his knee bothered him.

Danny Watkins, Philadelphia Eagles guard: The 28-year-old former firefighter was one of the best stories and strangest first-round picks in recent memory. It didn't work out for him under Andy Reid or Chip Kelly.

Greg McElroy, New York Jets quarterback: Matt Simms earned the No. 3 quarterback job. It's quite a story for a player that made virtually no impact in college football.

John Skelton, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback: Josh Johnson won the battle for the backup job behind Andy Dalton.

Tony Moeaki, Kansas City Chiefs tight end: He once flashed serious potential, but hasn't been able to stay healthy. He was waived/injured.

D.J. Williams, Green Bay Packers tight end: He has a lot of athleticism and played a ton with the Packers' starters during training camp. Look for him to get a job.

Max Starks, San Diego Chargers tackle: King Dunlap won the right to protect Philip Rivers' blindside.

Michael Bamiro, Philadelphia Eagles tackle: The mammoth Stoney Brook tackle received a lot of guaranteed money to sign with the Eagles. He could land on the practice squad.

Clay Harbor, Philadelphia Eagles tight end: Chip Kelly decided to keep Emil Igwenagu over Harbor.

Cody Grimm, Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety: Russ' son gave up a lot of big plays in Tampa's now-crowded secondary.

Jermaine Cunningham and Zoltan Mesko, New England Patriots: Mesko has been one of the better punters in the league, so his release comes as a surprise. Ryan Allen won the job with a strong camp. Cunningham, the No. 53 pick in the 2010 draft, never could build on a solid rookie season as a pass rusher.

Rusty Smith, Tennessee Titans quarterback: The Titans just kept two quarterbacks. Smith could find a job elsewhere.

Fernando Velasco, Tennessee Titans center: He started 16 games for the team last season.

Marcus Trufant, Jacksonville Jaguars cornerback: General manager David Caldwell will roll with one of the most inexperienced cornerback groups in football.

John Connor, Bengals fullback: "The Terminator" didn't make the squad. That's good news for "Hard Knocks" regular Orson Charles.

Jimmy Clausen, Carolina Panthers quarterback: Derek Anderson is the team's backup. Clausen's release, as NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reported, comes as little surprise.

Drayton Florence, Carolina Panthers cornerback: Rapoport was told Florence will be released, which comes as a surprise after the team signed him to a one-year, $1 million contract in March.

J'Marcus Webb, Chicago Bears offensive tackle: After struggling through 44 starts over three seasons, the 6-foot-7 offensive tackle tweeted his release Friday morning. It's a good sign for the young Bears offensive line.

Jordan Palmer, Chicago Bears quarterback: The founder of RunPee.com could get a call during the regular season if backup Josh McCown is hurt. The Bears also released quarterback Trent Edwards, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune.

David Nelson, Cleveland Browns wide receiver: Rapoport was told by a source informed of the move that Nelson won't make the team in Cleveland. Signed for cheap, Nelson couldn't make an impact this summer after suffering an ACL tear in 2012 and battling a bone bruise in training camp.

Matt Leinart, Buffalo Bills quarterback: On the heels of a rough-and-tumble outing against the Detroit Lions on Thursday, the former first-round draft pick tweeted Friday that he has been released by the Bills. His career probably is over.

Crezdon Butler, Buffalo Bills cornerback: Butler is not a big name, but he was viewed as a potential starter following Stephon Gilmore's injury.

Daniel Fells and Jake Ballard, New England Patriots tight ends: The Patriots have cut ties with two tight ends. Fells has been released after signing a three-year, $5.25 million contract in 2012. Ballard, claimed off waivers from the New York Giants last year, also was cut. Ballard lacked speed after surgery. This is a good sign for Rob Gronkowski, who is not expected to land on the PUP list. Undrafted rookie Zach Sudfeld and Michael Hoomanawanui are the healthy Patriots tight ends. Tim Tebow was not among the Patriots' first 10 cuts.

Brian Banks, Atlanta Falcons linebacker: Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com first reported that Banks was let go, and the Falcons later confirmed the news. His inspirational story might not be over. Glazer hints Banks could have some sort of role with the team.

Dennis Dixon, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback: He never really had a chance after the Eagles drafted Matt Barkley.

Tony Pashos, Washington Redskins offensive tackle: ESPN.com's John Keim first reported that Pashos was released by the team, a move that ensures Tyler Polumbus will start at right tackle for the Redskins.

Mike Thomas, Arizona Cardinals wide receiver: The former Jacksonville Jaguar's career continues a steep decline. He caught 66 passes only a few years ago.

Austin Davis, St. Louis Rams quarterback: Kellen Clemens will backup Sam Bradford.

Anthony Allen and Delone Carter, Baltimore Ravens running backs: The Ravens just traded for Carter, but he didn't last long. It looks like Bobby Rainey will be the team's No. 3 running back.

Dan Carpenter, New York Jets kicker: Carpenter just signed with the Jets a few days ago after he was cut by the Arizona Cardinals. His release leaves Nick Folk as the only kicker on the Jets' roster.

Lance Ball, Denver Broncos running back: Ball's release essentially locks Knowshon Moreno into third-down duties until Monte Ball and Ronnie Hillman shore up their pass protection skills. Undrafted rookie C.J. Anderson is expected to take the fourth running-back spot.

You guys think he'd be better than EDS?

[mraynrand]

In anything I've seen of Boyd - going back to college games I looked at of him, I have yet to see him make a single play, or get off a single block.

Amazing.

Probably hard to see with your hands over your eyes

[bobblehead]

Yes, but I am with Brandon I expect to see him on the PS. He is just the kind of player who will get there. Bad tape in abundance.

yea, perfect PS guy. He can't really help a team on an active roster unless he were lights out on ST, but his athletic ability makes you want to work with him for a year.

[swede]

Miller showed very well - seriously doubt he will clear waivers. Boyd showed less than nothing. TT just kept him b/c he was a draft pick. In anything I've seen of Boyd - going back to college games I looked at of him, I have yet to see him make a single play, or get off a single block.

You don't cut superior players, and keep inferior players, just to save face over a low round draft pick.

This was stupid on top of shit.

That was my thought.

[bobblehead]

I think Boyd vs Miller is the wrong argument here. If my count is correct, TT kept 8 OL and 8 DL. Given the relative talent level of the 2 groups, he could have kept 9 DL and 7 OL. It's hard to justify keeping 8 on the OL. Only 6 were really worth keeping, although I agree you have to keep 7, at least until Sherrod is ready to play. I don't have a problem so much with keeping Boyd. The Packers are a draft and develop team. Some guys need more than a month to develop. I just find it hard to justify keeping both Van Roten and Taylor.

this is my thinking. We don't even have 7 OL worthy of a roster spot in the NFL. Ravished by injuries, not blaming TT necessarily, but it is what it is, we are thinner than a meth head.

[Jimx29]

[NewsBruin]

Surprised with all their cuts, the Raiders kept both punters, Kluwe and King (younger and better preseason measurables).

Vikes kept FB Zach Line (for now), an undrafted converted HB from SMU who's part of a one-year committed piece from Peter King's MMQB site.

I've liked David Gettis since he put on a Baylor cap during the Army high-school all-star game. Maybe once he heals, he'll get a call-up to be a cheap WR for the Redskins.

Sure looks.like we'll have a plentiful, if not good, FA QB crop to play around with.