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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    Instead of wringing out hands over the backup QB I'd rather we assemble a top notch O line to protect the wonderful QB we already have.
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    No one is wringing their hands over it. I started this thread to gauge how important the 'Rats think it is. I stated my position, that I wouldn't give anything and would settle for the best available FA. From the responses, it seems like no one else is willing to spend much either.
    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    Maybe not on this forum but there is plenty of trepidation on other message boards about our O line right now.
    We were talking about the backup QB, weren't we? What do peoples concerns on other boards about the O-line have to do with that?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
      I'm not too concerned

      The Packers need the best QB in football to excel

      To be honest if we took a lower tier backup for a 6th or 7th rounder..Rodgers goes out...we're screwed anyways

      I'd either take the best FA or offer up a 7th if I can get a guy I want for not too much money
      What if it's Flynn who is available? He has demonstrated the ability to run the O at a high level against good teams. Would you give a 5th? Higher? What about a second team player?

      What is the highest you would go for Flynn?

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      • #18
        I would trade a 7th rounder at most for Flynn.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          What if it's Flynn who is available? He has demonstrated the ability to run the O at a high level against good teams. Would you give a 5th? Higher? What about a second team player?

          What is the highest you would go for Flynn?

          I don't want to pay Flynn's salary. Isn't he still making around 5MIL ? I pass if that's the case. And I think he only has 1 year left. Pass again

          If I could have him for 1MIL per year for 3 Yrs I'd pass them a 6th. But since that's not the case I pass
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
            If I could have him for 1MIL per year for 3 Yrs I'd pass them a 6th. But since that's not the case I pass
            Good answer. Hell, I'd give them a 4th for those terms. But it's silly talk, Flynn is looking for opportunity to stay in the big money, he would never lock-in to a 3 year deal to sit on the bench for peanuts.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
              I don't want to pay Flynn's salary. Isn't he still making around 5MIL ? I pass if that's the case. And I think he only has 1 year left. Pass again

              If I could have him for 1MIL per year for 3 Yrs I'd pass them a 6th. But since that's not the case I pass
              His base salary isn't too much this year, but would be 5 mil next year, which is the last year of the contract.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                His base salary isn't too much this year, but would be 5 mil next year, which is the last year of the contract.
                Not giving up a draft pick for a one year rental
                So I pass
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #23
                  really torn by that question Patler.

                  Part of me says nothing. If Rodgers goes down, the Packers are done, why pretend. There is not a QB in the league who's going to do what he does.

                  My left brain however, chants "Jeff Hostetler, Jeff Hostetler"

                  The current meta in the NFL, carrying only 2 QBs, forces a team to choose between a competent backup and a developmental player. At this juncture in Rodger's career, I'd value the competent backup and be willing to give up a mid-round pick for a Pederson type.
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                  • #24
                    I wouldn't give up anything for a QB right now. If Rodgers were to get injured, I don't really like our chances, but I would rather we go out and find a veteran FA who can maybe win a game or two (re: manage a game or two) for us. Again, only if the need arises.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Probably. My interest was getting a feel for how concerned people were with the backup QB spot.
                      We survived having Harrell backup Rodgers last year and IMO Coleman is/will be a better QB than GH.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        We were talking about the backup QB, weren't we? What do peoples concerns on other boards about the O-line have to do with that?
                        If this porous line gets Rodgers hurt then the backup QB is a concern. With a stout line the backup isn't as big an issue.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          We survived having Harrell backup Rodgers last year
                          They didn't survive with Harrell as backup QB, it just turned out that they didn't need a backup QB. That could happen again, which is why I wouldn't invest much in the position. Of course, the concern is that with the standard protocol for concussions now, it is significantly more likely that QB's will miss the remainder of games and entire games the weeks after concussions. It is beginning to be almost automatic that at least one game is missed.


                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          IMO Coleman is/will be a better QB than GH.
                          Quite likely, it is low bar for him to get over!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Patler View Post
                            They didn't survive with Harrell as backup QB, it just turned out that they didn't need a backup QB. That could happen again, which is why I wouldn't invest much in the position. Of course, the concern is that with the standard protocol for concussions now, it is significantly more likely that QB's will miss the remainder of games and entire games the weeks after concussions. It is beginning to be almost automatic that at least one game is missed.




                            Quite likely, it is low bar for him to get over!
                            Maybe "survived" wasn't the best word to choose there.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              ... with the standard protocol for concussions now, it is significantly more likely that QB's will miss the remainder of games and entire games the weeks after concussions. It is beginning to be almost automatic that at least one game is missed.
                              That's a solid point, and just another reason among many (for example, giving up the most sacks in the NFL) to expect your QB won't play every snap that counts and will likely miss a game or two.
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                              • #30
                                Never mind.
                                Last edited by gbgary; 09-02-2013, 11:27 AM.

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