Seneca has turned himself into a good backup QB. You could do a lot worse. There are some young guys that might interest me more than Tolzien, but what do I know. He's probably better than Coleman.
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Guys, guys. It's obvious. Wallace was on a secret mission for Ted all along. Still, Hairball was never going to keep him anyway, as he only likes his own draft picks (B.J. Daniels). In any case, Colt McCoy will probably sink to 3rd on the depth chart since he can't run the offense they designed around Kap. Note to Packer defensive staff: If Daniels comes in the game next week, he will run the ball."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 2m
More QB movement ---> RT @nyjets: The Jets have signed QB Brady Quinn and released QB Graham Harrell.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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When you get dropped for Brady Quinn, it might be time to consider a career change. Or head to Canada.Originally posted by pbmax View PostIan Rapoport @RapSheet 2m
More QB movement ---> RT @nyjets: The Jets have signed QB Brady Quinn and released QB Graham Harrell.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I'm not sure what people are fretting over. The guy has a career 31 TD to 18 interception rate and has the ability to scramble also. He's played in a similar system--as he played for Mike Holgren in Seattle and then followed Holmgren to Cleveland. It shouldn't take long for him to pick up the system. He's one of the better backup QBs in the NFL, and he's old enough to know that a starting spot is probably not in the cards. In fact, if he hasn't fallen off the map, he's the type of guy that you could carry as a backup for 2-3 years or until you develop a good, young QB to be the backup."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Wallace played for Holmgren in Seattle, which probably gives him a leg up over VY. And while Young may not have been capable of learning the system in a few weeks, that doesn't mean no one can. Maybe Wallace is a quicker study.Originally posted by red View PostTT and M3 have managed to turn our backup QB position into a complete cluster fuck
they cut VY because he doesn't know the system well enough yet. then brings in two guys who know nothing about our playbook or system
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Nice post. I was just going to go look up his history bc I thought I recalled him being involved with a lot of former GB staff. Ted must have drafted him in Seattle. They picked him up in the 4th round in 2003. TT was VPFO there from 2000-2004.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI'm not sure what people are fretting over. The guy has a career 31 TD to 18 interception rate and has the ability to scramble also. He's played in a similar system--as he played for Mike Holgren in Seattle and then followed Holmgren to Cleveland. It shouldn't take long for him to pick up the system. He's one of the better backup QBs in the NFL, and he's old enough to know that a starting spot is probably not in the cards. In fact, if he hasn't fallen off the map, he's the type of guy that you could carry as a backup for 2-3 years or until you develop a good, young QB to be the backup.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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I think the fretting is over the fact that Thompson and McCarthy's plan has blown up in their face and they are down to a well traveled vet to fill a potentially big spot in the roster.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI'm not sure what people are fretting over. The guy has a career 31 TD to 18 interception rate and has the ability to scramble also. He's played in a similar system--as he played for Mike Holgren in Seattle and then followed Holmgren to Cleveland. It shouldn't take long for him to pick up the system. He's one of the better backup QBs in the NFL, and he's old enough to know that a starting spot is probably not in the cards. In fact, if he hasn't fallen off the map, he's the type of guy that you could carry as a backup for 2-3 years or until you develop a good, young QB to be the backup.
While I believe Wallace makes more sense than Young, its not that much of a step up. Thompson needs to collect some more QBs in the draft. Is it five in nine years now? Rodgers, Coleman, Flynn, Brohm and Ingle Martin in nine years overall. 2 of those years were Rodgers as Favre's backup.
So in six years of Rodgers starting, three draft picks and two of them might be out of the League.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Yup. I like the move. He can also do what you hope your #2 QB can, be an extra pair of eyes for the starter. Look at the game the way a vet does and tell the starter what he sees. Since becoming a starter, AR has never had the advantage of a seasoned vet to talk to during the game.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostI'm not sure what people are fretting over. The guy has a career 31 TD to 18 interception rate and has the ability to scramble also. He's played in a similar system--as he played for Mike Holgren in Seattle and then followed Holmgren to Cleveland. It shouldn't take long for him to pick up the system. He's one of the better backup QBs in the NFL, and he's old enough to know that a starting spot is probably not in the cards. In fact, if he hasn't fallen off the map, he's the type of guy that you could carry as a backup for 2-3 years or until you develop a good, young QB to be the backup.
TT pretty well telegraphed that something was up. The guy will never lie or mislead reporters intentionally, so when asked about Coleman as #2 yesterday he was ultra-evasive, and said they are always looking to upgrade every position. Seemed clear they were working on something.
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Originally posted by wist43 View PostThis offseason just gets more and more bizaare.


I don't see any major ineptness. Graham Harrell was not a bad gamble to make progress. Coleman also was worth a try. Vince Young - he still has something.
I really think the marginal players they tried just fell on the wrong side of the margin.
Picking up Seneca Wallace is a graceful safety net.
Who was your choice to be backup QB? I ask that of any and all whiners.
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Maybe it was just a nicer way of saying that they cut VY because he was too stupid... Now they have someone smarter...Originally posted by red View PostTT and M3 have managed to turn our backup QB position into a complete cluster fuck
they cut VY because he doesn't know the system well enough yet. then brings in two guys who know nothing about our playbook or system"Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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I think that is a big part of it. Harrell seemed to have the smarts, they said he was fantastic in the meeting room and solid in practice. Just couldn't adapt to game speed and apply what he knew. Coleman - I don't think MM liked his decision making. Clearly he didn't make enough progress to suit the staff.Originally posted by MJZiggy View PostMaybe it was just a nicer way of saying that they cut VY because he was too stupid... Now they have someone smarter...
Coleman was worth the risk. It just didn't work out. It doesn't for most low round draft picks.
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