Seneca Wallace

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well, senecca wallace has been available this whole time

why the hell not bring him in at the start of camp? wasn't he in the CFL before san fran called him last week?

[Old School]

I think we can be too quick to fault TT for not having a capable starter as an emergency QB. We were lucky to have AR follow what's his name. How many teams around the league have a developmental QB capable of stepping in if the starter should go down. How many even have a quality starter. Drafting a developmental QB every year is a crap shoot. We had a run on good ones, but have struck out lately. The good ones get starting jobs elsewhere.

I think Seneca is not all that bad, and about as good as we can get for now. In the meantime, it's hope the O line can perform and light a candle

[HarveyWallbangers]

well, senecca wallace has been available this whole time

why the hell not bring him in at the start of camp? wasn't he in the CFL before san fran called him last week?

I don't think so. As a vet, I think he was hoping the right situation would open up. There were rumors the Raiders wanted to sign him during the offseason, but that never happened. I think he eventually signed with San Fran because he thought he had a legitimate chance to be the backup. When he got there, he felt the 49ers were just using him to get Colt McCoy to take a paycut. I'm not worried about that situation, as Wallace is said to be a great guy.

[digitaldean]

I liked VY because of the scrambling dimension he adds. If we have Wallace as a backup that is forced to start or take over a game, it would be just as limited if VY would be there. There always would be a huge drop off from an MVP QB to their backup. The Kurt Warner, Tom Brady success scenarios are much fewer than the disasters at backup QB. From what was said about VY by scouts is that he freelanced too much. Plus even when he was in Tenn. it was kind of dialed back for him. I wish VY would've made it, but he kind of sealed his own fate.

[wist43]

I don't see any major ineptness. Graham Harrell was not a bad gamble to make progress. Coleman also was worth a try. Vince Young - he still has something.

I really think the marginal players they tried just fell on the wrong side of the margin.

Picking up Seneca Wallace is a graceful safety net.

Who was your choice to be backup QB? I ask that of any and all whiners.

Doesn't matter except to use the spot to develop a guy to either trade or eventually replace Rodgers. Wallace certainly isn't that guy. Coleman or Harrell weren't either, but I find it odd they'd bring in Wallace.

As I said, if Rodgers goes down - we're done for the year.

I suppose if Rodgers goes down for a game or two, they're thinking maybe Wallace gives them a better chance in those games... but I don't like those odds anyway - we're such a QB-centric team, on both sides of the ball, that any game without Rodgers is a likely loss.

In the end, backup QB doesn't matter except in terms of developing a prospect.

[Patler]

well, senecca wallace has been available this whole time

why the hell not bring him in at the start of camp? wasn't he in the CFL before san fran called him last week?

Why would Wallace have even wanted to sign in GB? From his perspective, they had the backup they went with last year, and the young, strong-armed guy they worked with for a year to turn into a capable NFL QB. It sure wouldn't have looked like much of an opportunity to a vet on the outside.

For their part, I think TT and MM hoped things would click for at least one of Harrell or Coleman. It was only when preseason games started, and both Harrell and Coleman looked awful, that it became apparent they needed to look elsewhere.

[mraynrand]

In the end, backup QB doesn't matter except in terms of developing a prospect.

to what end?

[mraynrand]

Why would Wallace have even wanted to sign in GB? From his perspective, they had the backup they went with last year, and the young, strong-armed guy they worked with for a year to turn into a capable NFL QB. It sure wouldn't have looked like much of an opportunity to a vet on the outside.

For their part, I think TT and MM hoped things would click for at least one of Harrell or Coleman. It was only when preseason games started, and both Harrell and Coleman looked awful, that it became apparent they needed to look elsewhere.

It's absurd to think that Seneca would sign with the Packers before his secret mission was completed.

[Patler]

In the end, backup QB doesn't matter except in terms of developing a prospect.

I said the same thing in another thread. The problem is they have run out of prospects for now. Coleman had to be a big disappointment to them.

[Patler]

to what end?

Possible trade, as they did in the past; or to root out the crusty old vet who won't go home, also as they did in the past.

[Harlan Huckleby]

oh ya, and if you are going to sign a creaky vet, better to do it after the final 53 date. Now they can, say, cut Wallace and promote Tolzien without being on hook.

I like the idea that Tolzien & Wallace know each other and can learn a new system together. Might make the tutoring sessions more effective.

[wist43]

I said the same thing in another thread. The problem is they have run out of prospects for now. Coleman had to be a big disappointment to them.

I agree

[Carolina_Packer]

Why would Wallace have even wanted to sign in GB? From his perspective, they had the backup they went with last year, and the young, strong-armed guy they worked with for a year to turn into a capable NFL QB. It sure wouldn't have looked like much of an opportunity to a vet on the outside.

For their part, I think TT and MM hoped things would click for at least one of Harrell or Coleman. It was only when preseason games started, and both Harrell and Coleman looked awful, that it became apparent they needed to look elsewhere.

Good points, Pat. Harrell had been groomed for long enough. He needed to show more on the field, but wasn't up to the task. Coleman also was not able to take advantage of his opportunities. Like others have said, if Rodgers goes down, I don't think anyone expects the Packers not to miss a beat. I think you could say that about most teams losing their top QB. You're only grooming a replacement if they guy is showing signs of retirement or suckage. Wallace could be to Rodgers what Pederson was to Favre.

Wallace was out of football last season, signed by New Orleans in April this year, cut August 19th, picked up by San Fran August 22nd to presumably create some competition with McCoy, and now we signed him after he couldn't beat out Luke McCown (Saints) or Colt McCoy (SF)...good thing Green Bay didn't have anyone with Mc in their last name to compete with. It would have been interesting to have brought in Wallace in the off-season like New Orleans did, but at the time, they still had hopes for Harrell and Coleman.

What a tight-rope it is to walk to get a decent, but not too decent QB to be your backup. You don't want to draft one too high or you're wasting value on a draft pick, and if you discount it too much (a free agent from the CFL who played in a gimmicky college spread offense, and a 7th rounder from a smaller school), then it's possible that neither guy works out. I think TT is right that they should have brought Young in sooner; perhaps after the draft like New Orleans did with Wallace, and let him have the whole off-season to get adjusted. Ah well, I guess our system probably fits Wallace the best, and if he had to come in and play, he might not light it up, but he wouldn't mess the bed either. We may be lucky that it worked out the way it did. Hope he gets splinters in his fingers from the clipboard and hat hair from his baseball cap and we never have to find out.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The funny thing is: if we had spent a high draft pick on a developmental QB, the same people that are crying about the backup QB spot would have ripped Thompson for doing it. Harrell was their developmental QB for a couple of years. Then, Coleman. It didn't work out. It happens all over the league. Nothing lost really. Seneca is a good backup. They go back to the drawing board next year (or perhaps Tolzien is that guy now; probably not though). At least, we didn't spend a 4th round pick on QB and then cut him his rookie year (like the Raiders just did with Tyler Wilson).

[Brandon494]

Seneca Wallace is just an older version of Matt Flynn and honestly I'm fine with that.