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    Dom the moron played comparatively little 2-4 during this game, and consequently our defense played them tough on the LOS. Was very surprised that Dom didn't play 1-5 for 60 minutes

    Our OL held up as well as could be expected. That's as good a game as I could expect them to play.

    I don't expect Dom to keep pace - he wants to play small and passive... but this game at least showed that he does realize he has some defensive linemen on the roster.

    The back end was a typical Dom Capers mess, but hey... baby steps
    wist

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    This is definitively a good sign that you are not apoplectic about this loss

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    • #3
      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
      This is definitively a good sign that you are not apoplectic about this loss
      I expected a loss... I expected domination, if not a blowout, so the results that we got were much better than I expected.

      Dom is an absolute disaster as DC though - the wide open receivers he gives to opponents will be a constant all season. I'm still hopeful that he will be fired sooner rather than later, but at least the team showed that they can play tough in the trenches.

      I don't expect Dom to make a habit of it though... he wants to play as small and soft as possible - I assume he just made an exception for this game b/c of how his defense was beat up and pushed around by the Niners last year.

      He'll resume his 2-4 base next week I'm sure.
      wist

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        Dom the moron played comparatively little 2-4 during this game, and consequently our defense played them tough on the LOS. Was very surprised that Dom didn't play 1-5 for 60 minutes

        Our OL held up as well as could be expected. That's as good a game as I could expect them to play.

        I don't expect Dom to keep pace - he wants to play small and passive... but this game at least showed that he does realize he has some defensive linemen on the roster.

        The back end was a typical Dom Capers mess, but hey... baby steps
        So was losing Hayward and Burnett doms fault too? Capers can call what he wants but when tramon and both our safeties play like practice squad players you can't do much. They didn't execute.

        On a side note, jolly REALLY makes a difference. Didn't think he'd be this good so soon

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        • #5
          We'll get a snap count from McGinn in a couple days but I think they played a considerable amount of 2-4 nickel and it was highly effective at times. The pass defense behind it not so much.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            We'll get a snap count from McGinn in a couple days but I think they played a considerable amount of 2-4 nickel and it was highly effective at times. The pass defense behind it not so much.
            Ding ding ding.
            Go PACK

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wist43 View Post
              I expected a loss... I expected domination, if not a blowout, so the results that we got were much better than I expected.

              Dom is an absolute disaster as DC though - the wide open receivers he gives to opponents will be a constant all season. I'm still hopeful that he will be fired sooner rather than later, but at least the team showed that they can play tough in the trenches.

              I don't expect Dom to make a habit of it though... he wants to play as small and soft as possible - I assume he just made an exception for this game b/c of how his defense was beat up and pushed around by the Niners last year.

              He'll resume his 2-4 base next week I'm sure.

              Yes, Capers deliberately wants to play the smallest, softest players and schemes.

              You have zero credibility with statements like that. Zero.

              You can say his scheme is ineffective. You can argue that he needs to blitz more, or play more down lineman, or whatever. But your insistence that Capers simply wants to play soft players and schemes reveals much about you and sheds no light on Capers.

              And besides, you have been crying about the lack of stoutness up front, and after a pretty stout game up front, you simply decide that it didn't really count - next week he'll go back . . .

              SF was better yesterday, especially in the last six and a half minutes. McMillan and wife were awful. Just awful. Burnett's presence was glaringly obvious.

              I think TT must take some blame. He hasn't found a complement for Burnett, nor has he found the depth.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                I don't know how much Jolly spelled Raji (or if someone else was substituted) but he made our d line look much better against a top three oline.
                On offense baktiari was awesome for his first start, Sitton and eds not so much. I keep seeing eds push Mrs suh on his back and wonder 'where did that guy go?'
                All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                George Orwell

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                • #9
                  Jolly played a lot of base for Wilson when they wanted to go beefy. They also played a lot of Eagle Oakie where they were shifting the front to strength. 49ers didn't like it because whenever they did it, they motioned someone to get it reversed. So Dom's tape review did yield some nuggets.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Jolly played a lot of base for Wilson when they wanted to go beefy. They also played a lot of Eagle Oakie where they were shifting the front to strength. 49ers didn't like it because whenever they did it, they motioned someone to get it reversed. So Dom's tape review did yield some nuggets.
                    I saw Clay in the middle a few times and that usually seemed to throw the niners a bit.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #11
                      Dom had them puzzled enough to burn a couple of timeouts. Very talented big men on this D.
                      70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                      • #12
                        I know, thread jack here, but maybe we could send Collins for experimental treatments in Germany like Kobe and Peyton?
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #13
                          I think TT must take some blame. He hasn't found a complement for Burnett, nor has he found the depth.
                          +1

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                            I saw Clay in the middle a few times and that usually seemed to throw the niners a bit.
                            Especially on that beautiful quick inside move that had the guard blocking air
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #15
                              DL great vs the run, but needed a bit more pass rush. Although perhaps they were playing more of containing Kap's running and making him beat them with his arm.
                              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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