The Official Gameweek Discussion thread: 2013 Week 2: Packers v Redskins

[MadScientist]

2) Washington has a good d, a good oline, a good rb and a good coach. While I still think we win it will not be easy.

Washington's D is weak in the secondary - the safeties are no better and may even be worse than what GB trotted out on Sunday. The corners are long in the tooth. They did well blitzing against Vick. Let 'em try that against Rodgers. It was hard to evaluate the offense as they were in a hole most of the game, other than RGIII being less dynamic.

[Patler]

Hayward is out a month with the hammy; Burnett was back practicing but limited today, so we'll have to see how he does. Even if he plays, I don't think you can count on him playing the full game with a testy hamstring. McMillian and Jennings should benefit from getting more snaps and expectations to start. They know they need to play better.

Packers at home gives them some advantage, WAS is going to be a tough out but I think RG3's knee recovery will limit his mobility. I get the sense he rushed back and I'm not convinced he's all the way healed. If GB shows up mad and desperate after the SF game and doesn't turn the ball over this game is theirs. Being 0-2 is a bad way to start.

Burnett practiced last week too, and then the hamstring acted up on him Friday or Saturday. Two things from that:

1. Limited practicing today probably doesn't mean a lot.

2. One article on Monday said one of the problems against SF was that they went through the week expecting Burnett to play, and weren't the best prepared to be without him. They won't make that mistake this week. (I won't even get into the stupidity of not being prepared to play without him, if that was actually the case.)

[Fritz]

Hayward is out a month with the hammy; Burnett was back practicing but limited today, so we'll have to see how he does. Even if he plays, I don't think you can count on him playing the full game with a testy hamstring. McMillian and Jennings should benefit from getting more snaps and expectations to start. They know they need to play better.

Packers at home gives them some advantage, WAS is going to be a tough out but I think RG3's knee recovery will limit his mobility. I get the sense he rushed back and I'm not convinced he's all the way healed. If GB shows up mad and desperate after the SF game and doesn't turn the ball over this game is theirs. Being 0-2 is a bad way to start.

Decisions like the ones coaches face with Burnett are why they make big money.

On the one hand, he was clearly, obviously missed. He may now be the third most important guy on the team - I'd say Rodgers, Matthews, and Lacey have been my first three can't-afford-to-lose-them guys.

It was nearly a tire fire back there. The only thing missing were the heated arguments after a TD. It was your guy! No, it was your guy!

So Burnett is sorely missed and the team does not want to start 0-2. On the other hand, if you throw Burnett out there and he reinjures the hammy, you face the possibility of him missing God knows how many games. So do you take a chance and sit him again, hoping he'll be fully healed, then? Do you risk playing him or risk not playing him?

By the way, we Packerrats shit on a lot of Packers because of the loss - everyone from MM to TT to Sitton to McMillan The Wife to Finley to Lacey to Slocum. I was amongst the leading shitters.

But since many of us like to criticize Dom Capers or MM when the team loses, or Slocum when Jeremy Ross sucks, or Bush sucks, or Campen when any offensive lineman sucks, then why did none of us take a shot at Darren Perry, who, I think, coaches the safeties?

We're getting soft n' slow here at Packerrats. Come on.


Fire Darren Perry! And maybe Joe Whitt to, just to be sure!

[CaptainKickass]

Fire Darren Perry!

NEVER TRUST A MAN WITH 2 FIRST NAMES!!!!

[mraynrand]

Decisions like the ones coaches face with Burnett are why they make big money.

On the one hand, he was clearly, obviously missed. He may now be the third most important guy on the team - I'd say Rodgers, Matthews, and Lacey have been my first three can't-afford-to-lose-them guys.

It was nearly a tire fire back there. The only thing missing were the heated arguments after a TD. It was your guy! No, it was your guy!

So Burnett is sorely missed and the team does not want to start 0-2. On the other hand, if you throw Burnett out there and he reinjures the hammy, you face the possibility of him missing God knows how many games. So do you take a chance and sit him again, hoping he'll be fully healed, then? Do you risk playing him or risk not playing him?

By the way, we Packerrats shit on a lot of Packers because of the loss - everyone from MM to TT to Sitton to McMillan The Wife to Finley to Lacey to Slocum. I was amongst the leading shitters.

But since many of us like to criticize Dom Capers or MM when the team loses, or Slocum when Jeremy Ross sucks, or Bush sucks, or Campen when any offensive lineman sucks, then why did none of us take a shot at Darren Perry, who, I think, coaches the safeties?

We're getting soft n' slow here at Packerrats. Come on.


Fire Darren Perry! And maybe Joe Whitt to, just to be sure!

I'm impressed that you are an equal opportunity axe wielder.

[hoosier]

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1) JH for offical game day thread
2) Washington has a good d, a good oline, a good rb and a good coach. While I still think we win it will not be easy.

Average OL, mixed D (great pressure from the edges, so so defensive line, crappy secondary), had two rookies on offense with magical seasons last year. RGIII won't be his normal self this year, which is going to limit the ways he can hurt a defense. I predict Washington has a big fall-off this year into the 6-10 neighborhood.

[Fritz]

Average OL, mixed D (great pressure from the edges, so so defensive line, crappy secondary), had two rookies on offense with magical seasons last year. RGIII won't be his normal self this year, which is going to limit the ways he can hurt a defense. I predict Washington has a big fall-off this year into the 6-10 neighborhood.

Good news per the JSO: Finley and Sitton returned to practice, and Burnett was in pads practicing too.

Okay, cue tomorrow's McCarthy presser:

MM: looks like Morgan Burnett's hamstring tightened up when he came in today. Not sure he'll be a go Sunday. Prepared to go forward with last week's starters.

Sitton? Back tightened up last night. Probably unavailable Sunday. Injuries part of the game.

Finley will be a game-time decision.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Washington had a lot of turnovers early and dug themselves a huge hole against the Eagles. I don't expect that this week, but if the Packers don't get any TO's then there is a problem with that defense.

That's what worries me about this game. Those turnovers were HIGHLY unusual for Washington. Last year, Washington had only 8 interceptions--tied with Green Bay for the fewest. Combined with 5 fumbles lost, they only had 13 turnovers last year. RGIII protects the ball (and I think he shook off some rust last week), so it's very likely that they'll do a much better job this week.

[hoosier]

I am not worried about this game in the least. If the Packers lose that will say a lot more about Green Bay than about Washington. For that reason, this game comes at a good time: right after a loss that probably says more about the opponent than it does about the Pack.

Good news per the JSO: Finley and Sitton returned to practice, and Burnett was in pads practicing too.

Okay, cue tomorrow's McCarthy presser:

MM: looks like Morgan Burnett's hamstring tightened up when he came in today. Not sure he'll be a go Sunday. Prepared to go forward with last week's starters.

Sitton? Back tightened up last night. Probably unavailable Sunday. Injuries part of the game.

Finley will be a game-time decision.

You forgot to include the inevitable surprise last-minute injuries (Jolly? Lacy?) and the delayed recurring injuries (Cobb? Jones?).

[MadScientist]

Okay, cue tomorrow's McCarthy presser:

Sitton? Back tightened up last night. Probably unavailable Sunday. Injuries part of the game.

You've listened to MM too much - from today's presser:

How’s Perry’s neck stinger?

“Flared up after yesterday’s practice, we’ll see how he is. That’s part of football.”

Peri wasn't listed as limited or DNP, but that could have been an oversight by the press.

You forgot to include the inevitable surprise last-minute injuries (Jolly? Lacy?) and the delayed recurring injuries (Cobb? Jones?).

Does Bush hurting his hammy count?

WTF will all the hamstring injuries anyway. Something seems wrong with their stretching or conditioning program.

[King Friday]

Packers > Washington

There is no reason why we should lose this game. The opponents have a short week, and looked befuddled by an up-tempo offense. Once you get a first down, you go into no huddle and pound that defense to death.

RGIII may not turn the ball over, but he's not the same guy he was last year right now. He's uncomfortable wearing a brace and hasn't had enough time to get in a groove offensively.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree we should win this game, but teams lose games they are supposed to win all the time. I'd rather go into the game humble and not assuming a victory. Washington was a good team last year. We have to have respect for them or we will lose. RGIII is capable of pulling off an upset.

[hoosier]

The Packers need to respect Washington, but the nice thing about being a fan is that you can tell it like it is and it won't affect the outcome of the game.

What's with the hammies: my theory is that hamstrings and oblique muscles are birds of a feather. As those muscle groups become larger and larger, strains and pulls become more and more common. Back in the days of hormone-free football this kind of thing was not the epidemic problem it is today. In that sense, maybe McCarthy is right about this being more than a Packer problem.

[Guiness]

The Packers need to respect Washington, but the nice thing about being a fan is that you can tell it like it is and it won't affect the outcome of the game.

What's with the hammies: my theory is that hamstrings and oblique muscles are birds of a feather. As those muscle groups become larger and larger, strains and pulls become more and more common. Back in the days of hormone-free football this kind of thing was not the epidemic problem it is today. In that sense, maybe McCarthy is right about this being more than a Packer problem.

Add this to your theory

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/13/fitzgerald-limited-with-hamstring-but-insists-hes-fine/

[pbmax]

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