Packers will have tough cap decisions to make

[pbmax]

Do you think so? I think he has played quite well, and I hope they find a way to extend his contract, but I'm not sure he has shown himself to be elite. I think he might always struggle a bit with the highly athletic, monster-sized WRs there are out there now.

I think he is close to that level (though its only been 2 games and he has gone up and down before) but his limitation is size and technique. The Sunday Night Game showed what a bigger CB could do with Boldin to shut him down, something the Packers struggled to do even with double coverage.

House is the guy who will be physical with receivers if he continues to improve and gets to start. JSO took the removal of Hyde from nickel and the insertion of House (Williams went inside to the slot) as a sign he has regained some mojo. But Hyde has not translated his camp performance to the reg season. His speed is usually noted as a problem and his future could be at safety.

[Upnorth]

Sheilds has been credited with 5 pass breakups (he had 10 all of last season) but has seen a lot more action than TWill. I wonder if TWill is just playing a better coverage game pushing more attempts Sheilds way. Sheilds is playing well, but to me so far TWIll has played better this season.

[Patler]

I think he is close to that level (though its only been 2 games and he has gone up and down before) but his limitation is size and technique. The Sunday Night Game showed what a bigger CB could do with Boldin to shut him down, something the Packers struggled to so even with double coverage.

House is the guy who will be physical with receivers if he continues to improve and gets to start. JSO took the removal of Hyde from nickel and the insertion of House (Williams went inside to the slot) as a sign he has regained some mojo. But Hyde has not translated his camp performance to the reg season. His speed is usually noted as a problem and his future could be at safety.

It would have been nice to see House on Boldin a bit last week, just to see if it would have made a difference.

[bobblehead]

It would have been nice to see House on Boldin a bit last week, just to see if it would have made a difference.

Yea, by the 4th quarter I wanted to drop a house on Boldin....like the wicked witch of the west (or whichever one).

[HarveyWallbangers]

I tag and hopefully trade Raji if it was me. Get another year or two of Pickett. With the DL in the shape its in and Worthy coming back, we can afford to keep just a specialty player at NT and Pickett is as stout as they get. CJ Wilson walks opening up reps for Boyd. Neal I haven't decided on yet.

I make JJ a fair offer and let him decide. Same for Finley. I don't sign Cobb earlier than I have to.

Sign Shields as a priority. Let EDS hit FA then make a fair bid for a backup role. Come up with a nice raise for Jolly but still within reason. ~2.5M range.

Q and Newhouse will be a bit rich for my blood methinks.

Fair analysis. Raji is an enigma. He should be elite, but he's not. However, he's better than the stats show. He's a good player. He'd probably be great in another system. I'd tag him also, and then see what you can get for him. Finley is similar. I like him. More than his stats because of how he opens up the offense, but I have a feeling he'll be looking for a deal similar to what he's making, and that's probably too much.

I don't care about EDS, Quarless, or Newhouse.

Jolly is old with baggage. They should be able to resign him to a friendly deal. I would think the fact they took a chance on him would get a "home town discount."

I'd make Shields a pretty high priority. The other thing I'd do is try to get Jones, Nelson, and Cobb all locked up for another 3-4 years. I'd sign Nelson and Cobb early and give Jones a decent offer. I wouldn't go real high. If he's looking for that, you let him walk. Boykin could probably do a lot of what Jones does. Nelson and Cobb, on the other hand, are must keeps IMHO. I'd hate to lose both Finley and Jones though. I think they need to keep 3 of their guys, hope Boykin progresses, and draft somebody relatively high.

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its not a tough decision for me

you let finley go because the guy only gives his all when big money is involved

raji can go, because we have more then enough talent on the d-line

and you can cut tramon because he isn't worth anywhere near the money he's making

cut jarrett bush. he's making good coin, and he fucking sucks, and with guys like house and banjo on the team, we no longer need his "talent" on special teams

letting those guys go should give us some cap room to keep guys like james jones, and randall cobb, etc

[Rutnstrut]

NFL Network noted Packers and Raji are far away with Raji wanting a deal in the 9MIL to 10MIL a year range.

Don't let the door kick you in the ass buddy; you are not wortht those figures

Raji is VERY over rated, if he doesn't want to stay for what GB is willing to give him let him waddle on out. Unless of course he has an outstanding year, which I highly doubt.

[3irty1]

NFL Network noted Packers and Raji are far away with Raji wanting a deal in the 9MIL to 10MIL a year range.

Don't let the door kick you in the ass buddy; you are not wortht those figures

That's more than it would cost to tag him.

[Fritz]

its not a tough decision for me

you let finley go because the guy only gives his all when big money is involved

raji can go, because we have more then enough talent on the d-line

and you can cut tramon because he isn't worth anywhere near the money he's making

cut jarrett bush. he's making good coin, and he fucking sucks, and with guys like house and banjo on the team, we no longer need his "talent" on special teams

letting those guys go should give us some cap room to keep guys like james jones, and randall cobb, etc

The funny part is that if you don't offer contracts to guys like Raji and Finley, they will be the "big name" free agents other teams will sign while Packer fans bitch that Ted won't sign a big name free agent...

[red]

picket is in the last year of his contact, and it's a big number year. either he is allowed to walk next year or he gets resigned and the first couple years of his new deal are much more cap friendly

his number for this season is 6.7 million

tramons cap number next season is 9.5 million. there is absolutely no reason to keep him at that price. he's gone

hawk is gonna count 6.2 million next season. you either like him or hate him. he is a leader on the defense, but you can find upgrades for cheaper

kuhn is our highest paid running back with a cap number of 2.5 million this season. this is the last year he is under contract. he can go

jarrett bush is our 3rd highest paid CB, and after we get rid of tramon he will be our 2nd highest paid cb with a cap number of 1.8 million. he will count just over 2 million next year. he can go

raji has a cap number this year of about 6.6 million. we either resign him or let him walk. if we resign him, his cap number should go down

same for finley, in the last year of his contract. he's counting 8.8 million this year against the cap. a new contract would bring lower cap numbers in the first couple of years. letting him go gives us a lot of cap room

so by my count thers about 40 million dollars in cap space to be gained right there. you would need to find a new starting ILB, TE, and another couple of fat guys for the d-line. but overall, it's do-able

[Joemailman]

picket is in the last year of his contact, and it's a big number year. either he is allowed to walk next year or he gets resigned and the first couple years of his new deal are much more cap friendly

his number for this season is 6.7 million

They will let him enter free agency and try to sign him to a lower contract.

tramons cap number next season is 9.5 million. there is absolutely no reason to keep him at that price. he's gone

Watch Davon House this year. He could make Tramon expendable.

hawk is gonna count 6.2 million next season. you either like him or hate him. he is a leader on the defense, but you can find upgrades for cheaper

I don't think Hawk is going anywhere. His contract is something they can afford, and he's better than people give him credit for.

kuhn is our highest paid running back with a cap number of 2.5 million this season. this is the last year he is under contract. he can go

I think Kuhn will be gone, or back for less money.

jarrett bush is our 3rd highest paid CB, and after we get rid of tramon he will be our 2nd highest paid cb with a cap number of 1.8 million. he will count just over 2 million next year. he can go

Agree

raji has a cap number this year of about 6.6 million. we either resign him or let him walk. if we resign him, his cap number should go down

Hard to gauge this one. My guess is they tag him, and try to sign him to an extension.

same for finley, in the last year of his contract. he's counting 8.8 million this year against the cap. a new contract would bring lower cap numbers in the first couple of years. letting him go gives us a lot of cap room

The way he's playing this year, he could be too expensive to keep.

so by my count thers about 40 million dollars in cap space to be gained right there. you would need to find a new starting ILB, TE, and another couple of fat guys for the d-line. but overall, it's do-able

In TT I trust.

[mission]

Unpopular opinion, but I'd sign Finley now that he's actually a TE. Before he was trying to slim down because he wanted to make the argument that he was actually a WR and get more money with the franchise tag. Now he's beefed up, filled in his frame and actually looks like a TE. I don't think hustle or heart is a problem with Finley and now that he's off twitter, think a lot of the problems are behind him. He's a good kid IMO. Just stupid.

[mraynrand]

Unpopular opinion, but I'd sign Finley now that he's actually a TE. Before he was trying to slim down because he wanted to make the argument that he was actually a WR and get more money with the franchise tag. Now he's beefed up, filled in his frame and actually looks like a TE. I don't think hustle or heart is a problem with Finley and now that he's off twitter, think a lot of the problems are behind him. He's a good kid IMO. Just stupid.

spot on

[pbmax]

Yeah, but if he was still haggling over $7-8 mil per year after dropfest, how much will he want in another deal? The asking price has to be north of that I would think.

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Yeah, but if he was still haggling over $7-8 mil per year after dropfest, how much will he want in another deal? The asking price has to be north of that I would think.

he's already the 2nd highest paid TE in the game

its interesting to note that antonio gates (who finley wishes he was as good as) has never had a single season close to what finley is making this year