Colts Trade for Brown's Richardson

[mraynrand]

That portrait of Michael Lombardi in grantland had to be pretty depressing if you are a Browns fan. Unless they tank to the level of Clowney it is hard to have much confidence in the GMs ability to get consistent value from any pick, no matter how high. Not to mention what the frequent turnover in the coaching staff does for player development.

Locally there is not a lot of confidence in Lombardi, and I agree. I heard they hired him and I'm thinking "Uh oh, here's another talking head given the reigns." It really is a Matt Millen kind of error.

[Cheesehead Craig]

think of all those pissed off fans who bought richarson jerseys because he was the only guys whos jersey was worth buying

seemed like a safe investment at the time

Gotta invent a jersey that you can buy names, and numbers that are removable so that way when a player is no longer with the team, you can just order new names and numbers. Like some sort of stickers that would peel off the jersey. Probably already been done.

[mraynrand]

The Brownies don't necessarily need the 'franchise QB.' They need some competence and stability there, but since 1999, they've never really built any kind of o-line. Maybe parlay 3 of those top two round picks into a rock-solid line, and you can win with a decent offense and an outstanding defense. And draft the next NFL MVP with your late first round pick (probably #24 from Indy).

[mraynrand]

Another WR and TE couldn't hurt either. The cupboard is pretty bare on the offensive side of the ball.

[red]

That portrait of Michael Lombardi in grantland had to be pretty depressing if you are a Browns fan. Unless they tank to the level of Clowney it is hard to have much confidence in the GMs ability to get consistent value from any pick, no matter how high. Not to mention what the frequent turnover in the coaching staff does for player development.

i don't know about clowney being #1 anymore

the guy has looked very average so far this year, his stock could be dropping

[mraynrand]

i don't know about clowney being #1 anymore

the guy has looked very average so far this year, his stock could be dropping

there are character issues as well. More on the effort side.

[red]

Screw Manziel, this is a play to get Bridgewater. Cleveland has now said with this move that they want the #1 overall pick with this trade. I wouldn't be surprised if they parlayed a bunch of those picks to move into the first round for a 3rd pick with one of them being used on a WR.

i think you're right about them using all the ammo they have now in order to move up and get the exact guy they want

i hope they go with jonny football, because i think he's gonna be a massive flop in the nfl along the lines of "robo-qb" Marinovich or ryan leaf

to me, the guy seems like a massive off the field head ache waiting to happen

[Guiness]

Gotta invent a jersey that you can buy names, and numbers that are removable so that way when a player is no longer with the team, you can just order new names and numbers. Like some sort of stickers that would peel off the jersey. Probably already been done.

A lot less wear and tear on a Packers jersey than the Browns one

[red]

does flynn need to be added to that jersey?

he did start for us, and set a team record

its like the old bears QB deal. they had like 20 or 30 starting QB's during the same time we had favre

[Guiness]

does flynn need to be added to that jersey?

he did start for us, and set a team record

I guess you could, he started two games, one in 2010, one in 2011. Of course, if you want to go back to 1992, the previous iteration of the Browns, you add 6 more names to their list

its like the old bears QB deal. they had like 20 or 30 starting QB's during the same time we had favre

Seemed like the had a lot, even if you just count guys who were named as the regular starting QB, as opposed to those who started due to injuries to the regular starter.

Still, my favorite Bear qb to start a game was Peter Tom Willis! I happened to watch the one game he started, vs Denver, I think he got sacked about 6-7 times!

[King Friday]

Let me put it to you in terms that should make all Browns fans cringe...

The last time Mr. Mike Lombardi had an opportunity to select a franchise QB, he settled on JaMarcus Russell.

This was a tremendously stupid trade by the Browns. As if the team isn't already full of huge holes on the roster...let's make another one by dumping the only capable offensive player on it. Richardson is going to turn out to be a very good player in Indy, where defenses won't be able to sell out completely to stopping him. He will be good for 1500 yards from scrimmage every year and double digit TDs.

[Joemailman]

Let me put it to you in terms that should make all Browns fans cringe...

The last time Mr. Mike Lombardi had an opportunity to select a franchise QB, he settled on JaMarcus Russell.

This was a tremendously stupid trade by the Browns. As if the team isn't already full of huge holes on the roster...let's make another one by dumping the only capable offensive player on it. Richardson is going to turn out to be a very good player in Indy, where defenses won't be able to sell out completely to stopping him. He will be good for 1500 yards from scrimmage every year and double digit TDs.

Keep in mind that he was working for Al Davis, so we don't know if drafting Russell was really his idea or not. Richardson is a good player, but the Browns need lots of good players. Thay also need a quarterback, and they'll have the ammunition to move up in the draft if they need to to get the guy they want.

[Bretsky]

does flynn need to be added to that jersey?

he did start for us, and set a team record

its like the old bears QB deal. they had like 20 or 30 starting QB's during the same time we had favre

With fondness I recall Madtown at the First Even Packerrate Game Year one pimping Matt Flynn as our long term answer at QB as opposed to Aaron Rodgers; Remembering the "Flynn to Win" chants as we walked around from bar to bar.

Of course the average blood alcohol level was about .25% at that time and some frickin how I got dragged out of the Oval Office and ended up in some dam "acceptance" bar...or some dam term I'd never heard of but Mad has...that 15 minute change was perhaps one of the lower points in my existence ))

[mraynrand]

The last time Mr. Mike Lombardi had an opportunity to select a franchise QB, he settled on JaMarcus Russell..

Lombardi could very well be Matt Millen II. I think that once you've been a talking head, you start thinking of the GM duties like a hybrid between a video game and fantasy football

[Guiness]

Interesting how many of the pundits are saying this was a good trade for the Browns.

I guess it depends on your evaluation of Richardson. Much and more has been said about his 3.5yd/carry average. Is that on him, or the lack of overall talent on O? With the crapshoot that is the NFL draft, just because you don't get someone destined for Canton with a pick doesn't mean it's a wash. Odds are whoever they get with their first rounder from the Colts. And if rumour has it right and they put all their eggs in one basket to move up and get the QB they want the repercussions of missing on that pick are even worse...not to mention that means they give up on two first round picks pretty quickly!