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  • #16
    I'm not as quick to walk away from that deal as others...from a GM position, a first round pick for a former third rounder who's going into FA looking for his third contract after the season? Pretty hard to turn that down, there's a 50-50 change at best that he's back as it is. Weighed against the fact that he might be an important piece of an SB run though makes it tougher than it should be. No, I guess I don't make that.

    To all those who came within 10' of getting fooled by the thread title...really?
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    • #17
      Quite honestly, I'd probably do that trade--unless the Pack thinks they have a great chance at signing James long-term. You'd have to seriously think about trading a solid #2 receiver who is in the final year of his contract for a 1st round pick. Boykin could probably do most of what Jones does. New England wouldn't do it though, so it's pure fantasy.
      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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      • #18
        Browns are better off totally tanking this year. They not only get the Colts #1, but they are making their own #1 even better. TR was not enough to build around so it makes sense.
        Trading Jones, even for a #1 just doesn't make enough of a win for the Packers, and the Packers still have a legitimate chance this year.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by hoosier View Post
          Not to nitpick or anything, but I don't see Jones and Cobb as having comparable skills. Cobb is both faster and much quicker than any of the receivers you mention. Boykin might be a potential replacement down the road, or he might turn out to be Tori Gurley II, we don't know. I do, however, agree with the important question: no way would I trade Jones to the Patriots.
          I agree that they are not very similar as players but my point is that there are only so many balls to go around so it starts to matter what you can do with each catch. My comparison between all of those guys is how much damage they can do with each catch. A guy who can burn you deep like Jordy can rack up 1,000 yards on just 65 catches. Nobody else on the team will be able to achieve that kind of efficiency. At some point you get diminishing returns on guys like Jones and Cobb. When we had a healthy Jennings and Jordy at the same time in 2011 though we had 2 guys who could stretch the D and make the most of their 65 catches and subsequently made it rain.
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          • #20
            Has Boykin even played the first two weeks other than on STs? MM doesn't seem to be making any effort to work him into the rotation like he did with 4 and 5 receivers in previous years. That tells me that Boykin is no more than a capable backup who should see the field only when necessary.

            Worrying about getting value for Jones now because he MIGHT leave in free agency NEXT year is an afterthought to the primary objective of winning a Super Bowl this year. This isn't the same as last year when they still had Jennings (ignoring the injury), or as two years ago when they also had a somewhat capable Driver. It could be argued that in those years they had more deserving players than available playing time at WR. That's not the case now. Boykin is fine for a 4th or 5th receiver on the team; but the Packers have no where near the WR depth that they have had in the past.

            Both Nelson and Cobb have a bit of an injury history, including missing most of the past preseason. If you trade Jones and one of Cobb or Nelson goes out you are left with Boykin and Ross both playing more than they should. If both were to go down at the same time, the offense changes dramatically.
            Last edited by Patler; 09-20-2013, 11:31 AM.

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            • #21
              I'm with Patler. The Pack is loaded to win now, this season.

              Furthermore, I think TT extends JJ this season. The issues he used to have with ball security seem to have been solved with Bennett as his position coach. He is a solid, big and strong receiver who makes really tough catches. He's worth holding onto and I don't think he'll break the bank.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by KYPack View Post

                A cyber whack upside the head of Rand with a dead fish for the scary heading on this thread.

                Poor form, Big Boy.
                I will assume that this chicanery will leave no lasting emotional scars on you and the rest of Packerrats. Just having some fun playing off the TR to Colts trade. Remember our watchwords: bigger, tougher, stronger!
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                  New England wouldn't do it though, so it's pure fantasy.
                  probably not, but they did work out some true NFL dross this week.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                    Bienvenido a Miami, el hogar de los campeones de la AFC Norte.
                    Huh?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      I would not make that trade.

                      The Packers have a legitimate shot at the SB this year. If Jones and Perry develop and Neal grows in his new role, when Burnett and Hayward return the defense could improve significantly as the year progresses. Trading Jones would weaken the offense considerably, and would put them one injury away being weak at WR.

                      This offense needs 3 very good WRs at a minimum, which makes me wonder where they will be next year if Jones goes elsewhere in free agency. At least next year they have the opportunity to bring in a draft pick, have a year of development in Charles Johnson and Myles White, etc.
                      He was talking about trading JAMES Jones, not Brad.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                        Huh?
                        Pugsly,

                        it's Welcome to Miami, the Home of the AFC North Champions.

                        Yoop meant AFC East, but evidently they don't have globes in Denver, so he fubared.

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                        • #27
                          I think that would be even worse then the Browns/Colts trade. We have a shot at winning it all this year, Browns didn't even have a shot at reaching a .500 record. Even if we were to lose Jones in FA you have to remember TT is a master at drafting WR talent so I trust he would be able to find a replacement. Also its the Pats 1st round draft pick which is really just an early 2nd and after the game Jones just had against the Skins why are we even talking about this? haha

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                          • #28
                            I would mind if TT decided to trade a pick to the Browns for their starting SS TJ Ward though.

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                            • #29
                              I wasn't fooled.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                                Pugsly,

                                it's Welcome to Miami, the Home of the AFC North Champions.

                                Yoop meant AFC East, but evidently they don't have globes in Denver, so he fubared.
                                Was that Spanish? It's been a while.

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