Pink Elephant in the room

[Freak Out]

On the 4th down run/fumble that was returned for a touchdown what was the FG distance if he sent Missin Mason out there? I was pissed he went for it instead of giving his kicker a shot. Crosby had been dead on in his other kicks. Plus a rookie dive...? Maybe with Lacy but fuck...that was a passing down for the Packers. Roll Rogers out.

[mraynrand]

On the 4th down run/fumble that was returned for a touchdown what was the FG distance if he sent Missin Mason out there? I was pissed he went for it instead of giving his kicker a shot. Crosby had been dead on in his other kicks. Plus a rookie dive...? Maybe with Lacy but fuck...that was a passing down for the Packers. Roll Rogers out.

I think it was the point differential that drove the decision. Make the FG, and you're still not up by two scores and can be beat by a TD. Miss the FG or don't get the first down and you are up by a FG and can still be beat with a TD and only tied with FG. Stubby could have punted, but probably lost confidence in defense....

[Freak Out]

I'll take a six point lead and the defense for $200 Alex.

[Patler]

In a game where we were up by 16 in the 3rd quarter the coach can take some responsibility. Instead of shrugging off the questions that pointed fingers at *Ross, **Franklin, ***the line, ****the receivers, *****and defensive players with personal foul penalties he agreed with the questioner and called out Perry in particular. That was an interesting game, but it was a game that shows that McCarthy's team is not ready yet. Usually MM is a stand up guy and yesterday he was pointing fingers at individual players.

*Ross sucks, but he wasn't the one dumb enough to keep him at KO return.
**Did Franklin get the ball cleanly?
***Okay, the line might have not deserved the coach's protection, but it never hurts to give it to them anyway.
****Same as above.
*****He really singled out Perry for a public flogging on the late hit.

Is the interview available to be seen/heard somewhere?

[Joemailman]

On the 4th down run/fumble that was returned for a touchdown what was the FG distance if he sent Missin Mason out there? I was pissed he went for it instead of giving his kicker a shot. Crosby had been dead on in his other kicks. Plus a rookie dive...? Maybe with Lacy but fuck...that was a passing down for the Packers. Roll Rogers out.

It would have been a 48 yard field goal, I believe into the wind which at times was fairly strong. I think going for it was the right move, but I agree it was the wrong play call. They ran right into the strength of the Bengals defense. Roll Rodgers out and give him the run/pass option.

[pbmax]

Well, he allowed Larry to blame the loss on the mistakes of individual players as long as his own performance seemed to be going unexamined.

That wasn't my most honest post and I'm going to work on that over the bye week.

Remember your pad level.

[pbmax]

It would have been a 48 yard field goal, I believe into the wind which at times was fairly strong. I think going for it was the right move, but I agree it was the wrong play call. They ran right into the strength of the Bengals defense. Roll Rodgers out and give him the run/pass option.

McCarthy said yesterday it was a consideration and the ball was inside the make line Crosby had given him. Somewhere, and I have no original source on this (might have been locker-room audio on the radio today) it was suggested Ross was fooled by the wind but McCarthy said they had a feel for it pregame.

This is the link for his post-game presser, but if McCarren got him separately, that will be elsewhere.

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Mike-McCarthy-Tough-loss-game-of-peaks--valleys/2116c431-6bec-407c-bba6-216942da7bce

[KYPack]

It would have been a 48 yard field goal, I believe into the wind which at times was fairly strong. I think going for it was the right move, but I agree it was the wrong play call. They ran right into the strength of the Bengals defense. Roll Rodgers out and give him the run/pass option.

Gotta pull rank on ya Joe.

There was no wind + the kick would've been into the closed end of PBS.

The conditions were fine for a kick.

Now that doesn't mean Missin' would have made it, but that play call did suck.

[pbmax]

Gotta pull rank on ya Joe.

There was no wind + the kick would've been into the closed end of PBS.

The conditions were fine for a kick.

Now that doesn't mean Missin' would have made it, but that play call did suck.

No wind? Seemed like several of the kickoffs in that direction were shorter than toward the other end. Swirling maybe?

[Joemailman]

According to PFR, the wind at kickoff was 13 mph. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1309220cin.htm

[red]

it sure as hell looked windy to me. thats what i assumed was screwing with all a-rods long passes

they blamed the botch kick return by ross on the wind knocking it down, and fat mike said after the game that the wind knocked it down but that was no excuse because they were dealing with the wind all pregame

maybe you were just blocked from the wind KY?

[Harlan Huckleby]

maybe you were just blocked from the wind KY?

He was sitting next to his wife.

[Cheesehead Craig]

On the 4th down run/fumble that was returned for a touchdown what was the FG distance if he sent Missin Mason out there? I was pissed he went for it instead of giving his kicker a shot. Crosby had been dead on in his other kicks. Plus a rookie dive...? Maybe with Lacy but fuck...that was a passing down for the Packers. Roll Rogers out.

I was ok with them going for it. They had shown they could run the ball very well during the game. They make that 4th down, they can run another 2 min off the clock, if not more with another first down after that and then the game is sealed.

If Crosby comes in and misses the kick, everyone here is screaming at MM for not trying to run the ball on that 4th and 1/2 yard when we had so much success with running.

The biggest issue for me was the 3 WR set. Everyone knows they were going to run the ball. Just get the damn TEs and a FB in there and stop being cute.

[KYPack]

it sure as hell looked windy to me. thats what i assumed was screwing with all a-rods long passes

they blamed the botch kick return by ross on the wind knocking it down, and fat mike said after the game that the wind knocked it down but that was no excuse because they were dealing with the wind all pregame

maybe you were just blocked from the wind KY?

My seats are in the South end next to Harlan's mom.

It wasn't windy in my seats, in fact, it was really warm during the game.

[Pugger]

I was ok with them going for it. They had shown they could run the ball very well during the game. They make that 4th down, they can run another 2 min off the clock, if not more with another first down after that and then the game is sealed.

If Crosby comes in and misses the kick, everyone here is screaming at MM for not trying to run the ball on that 4th and 1/2 yard when we had so much success with running.

The biggest issue for me was the 3 WR set. Everyone knows they were going to run the ball. Just get the damn TEs and a FB in there and stop being cute.

This is why I didn't have a problem with the call, just the execution of the call. The big guys were run blocking pretty well all day against a pretty stout D. Unfortunately the guys got beat at the worst possible moment. We really should give Cincy credit here for busting up that play.

Edit: we didn't have FB. Kuhn didn't play. I suppose we should have put a TE in there instead.