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How many short yardage situations did they have up to that point where they ran the ball (I honestly don't remember)? The run game works because the threat of the Passing attack sets it up not because the Packer offensive line blows guys off the line. I still think it was a stupid call and that Slocum should be fired for it.Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostI was ok with them going for it. They had shown they could run the ball very well during the game. They make that 4th down, they can run another 2 min off the clock, if not more with another first down after that and then the game is sealed.
If Crosby comes in and misses the kick, everyone here is screaming at MM for not trying to run the ball on that 4th and 1/2 yard when we had so much success with running.
The biggest issue for me was the 3 WR set. Everyone knows they were going to run the ball. Just get the damn TEs and a FB in there and stop being cute.C.H.U.D.
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i liked them going for it because a field goal still opens you up for a loss if they then march down the field and get a TD
i really didn't like the call though, i was expecting a QB sneak or something quick. i really didn't like running a play with what seemed like a very deep hand off when we just needed a couple inches
in the game thread i was calling for Raji to get in the game and either get the ball or lead block
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I think it was the right call to go for it, however, I think they should have done a run wide. Franklin was doing an amazing job of accelerating and cutting up a crease. I'm sure he would have found something to gain a few yards anyhow. Rushing up the middle was going into the strength of the defense and not Franklin's strength.
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Agree with others -- right decision to go for it, wrong play call. In these situations, I really want them to just QB sneak it in there...are they afraid of Rodgers getting banged up on a sneak?
Love the idea of running Raji in there, BTW. You'd think they practiced some kind of jumbo play during the week knowing they'd only have 2 healthy RB's.
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I think the QB sneaks pretty much ended with Rodgers' concussion in 2010. I don't think they should have run Franklin in there without a lead blocker. Especially an inexperienced rookie.Originally posted by run pMc View PostAgree with others -- right decision to go for it, wrong play call. In these situations, I really want them to just QB sneak it in there...are they afraid of Rodgers getting banged up on a sneak?
Love the idea of running Raji in there, BTW. You'd think they practiced some kind of jumbo play during the week knowing they'd only have 2 healthy RB's.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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It's easy to say they shouldn't have run Franklin on that 4th and inches because we know the improbable outcome became the real result. The guy was having a whale of a game up to that point, though, so the decision was not hard and not a bad choice.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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To me, here's a key question: did Franklin have the first down, had he not fumbled? Or would he have been stuffed?Originally posted by run pMc View PostAgree with others -- right decision to go for it, wrong play call. In these situations, I really want them to just QB sneak it in there...are they afraid of Rodgers getting banged up on a sneak?
Love the idea of running Raji in there, BTW. You'd think they practiced some kind of jumbo play during the week knowing they'd only have 2 healthy RB's."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Hope somebody saved the replay so they can answer.Originally posted by Fritz View PostTo me, here's a key question: did Franklin have the first down, had he not fumbled? Or would he have been stuffed?
I saw Johnathan pull a real good one on a kick-off. We were kicking in the first quarter. Franklin was R4 on the kick-off (4th from the right side of Masthay). I figured I'd watch this kid bc he's been such a flyin' flop so far. Franklin sprinted down to cover the kick. He closed on the ball carrier when a huge Bengal reserve LB ran right at Franklin with blood in his eyes. Franklin made the most chickenshit dive I've ever seen on an NFL field. It looked like he was sliding into second base.
The worst part was it was right in front of the Packer bench. He ran off with his head down, and grabbed some pine while staring at the ground.
I figured that was it for the dizzy sumbitch, they'll see that weak shit on film and cut this kid.
Turns out Franklin got in the game and morphed into an actual NFL player.
It was some other fool that got cut!
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Here's my question about the play. Did Franklin get too high in thee air? he had to get his feet off the ground or he would have been tripping over his own linemen. But should he have been just trying to dive over the backs of the linemen instead of jumping up as high as he did? I know it's become a bit of a humorous cliche around here, but was his pad level too high?I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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There's nothing funny about pad level!Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
Here's my question about the play. Did Franklin get too high in thee air? he had to get his feet off the ground or he would have been tripping over his own linemen. But should he have been just trying to dive over the backs of the linemen instead of jumping up as high as he did? I know it's become a bit of a humorous cliche around here, but was his pad level too high?
I think that photo does a pretty good job of answering the question of whether he was going to get the first down. None of the Packer linemen are on their feet and the Bengals linebacking crew is converging on him as he reaches them.--
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