Packer Fan Rant

[dahammer001]

I few things about the packers I would like to discuss. The inability of the organization to draft hard nose football players that can diagnose and make plays on a consistent basis. I get tired of seeing defensive guys that can't figure out what's going happen in the game, and if the figure it out they can't seem to make the tackle. I get tired of hearing about pad level, and we're going to get this fixed, damn it get it fixed!
I hate the fact that the organization like to draft six foot wide receivers, when everybody else manage to find receivers that are in the six foot three to six foot five range, that can run like a deer. I think that would help Rodgers out tremendously! The organization drives me crazy with these six foot 300 lb. lineman they seem to find every year. This becomes a problem when you encounter physical teams like the Niners or Seahawks.
Can we get some big corners that can tackle and fricking cover someone. The offensive line is putrid at best, can't pass block or run block, its one or two things, the players that are being selected are lousy or the coaches that preparing the players can't coach, pick your choice! I fear for Rodgers own safety. Does it seem strange that our guys are constantly being knocked out of games by opponents, but the packers defensive players never seem to put opposing players out of the game, I'm just saying! What ever happen to the screen pass it used to be constant staple of the packers offense. The one thing I do like is that Aaron Rodgers do not throw away games like the previous predecessor. That's my rant for the season and wish the packers luck for the upcoming season.

[red]

jordy is 6'3

our guys can run routes and catch the ball most of the time, a lot of those 6'4 guys can only run one or two routes

IMO, we need to stop going for the home run ball so many times and just go for the quick hitters like we use to and let our wr's get the extra yards

[swede]

Welcome dahammer 001. First of all, dahammer002 is going to be so pissed when he finds out you took his name.

Secondly, welcome to Packerrats.

Third, that is a good rant. It reads like you've been lumberjacking up in the north woods for the last 98 days with no one to talk to.

Fourth, you would have liked my father-in-law. You hold similar Packer views.

Fifth, stay away from Wist. He might be a little sunshiny for your taste.

[swede]

jordy is 6'3

our guys can run routes and catch the ball most of the time, a lot of those 6'4 guys can only run one or two routes

IMO, we need to stop going for the home run ball so many times and just go for the quick hitters like we use to and let our wr's get the extra yards

Red. Do we use the slant as much as we used to? If it is being used less, are opposing teams taking it away or is our offensive line taking it away by sucking in the middle?

[swede]

Red. Do we use the slant as much as we used to? If it is being used less, are opposing teams taking it away or is our offensive line taking it away by sucking in the middle?

Remember the time you were golfing with two other guys and that really pretty girl with the long brown legs joined the foursome and you sucked in your middle for nine holes. That was exhausting.

[red]

Remember the time you were golfing with two other guys and that really pretty girl with the long brown legs joined the foursome and you sucked in your middle for nine holes. That was exhausting.

i suck in my middle even for the ugly girls

i don't really know about the slants. it sure doesn't seem like we use them like we use to, and i have no clue why we don't. that use to be our bread and butter

[KYPack]

i suck in my middle even for the ugly girls

i don't really know about the slants. it sure doesn't seem like we use them like we use to, and i have no clue why we don't. that use to be our bread and butter

I don't "know" either, red & Swede.

But I do have a notion.

when we ran a lot of slants, we had the best 5 deep WR rotation in the league.

DD and Jennings were great at slants.

Now we are down to a big 3 and some fill-ins.

Slants get your ass hurt and we have gone away from 'em to keep the boys we have healthy.

We almost have to protect our guys from themselves.

Cobb, for instance, would catch a slant in front of a brick wall.

This is all IMHO, but I do feel it's a big factor.

[mraynrand]

Nice rant dahammer001. For your health, I am glad to know you aren't a Jacksonville fan. Just remember that the team on the other side of the ball is trying to win too (except for Jacksonville).

[Harlan Huckleby]

The organization drives me crazy with these six foot 300 lb. lineman they seem to find every year. This becomes a problem when you encounter physical teams like the Niners or Seahawks.

Well, they drafted a big guy with less than 40% body fat, Datone Jones in first round, and so far its been the old look-like-Tarzan-play-like-Jane story.

I'm fine with the D-line. They need more from Perry, who has been a downgrade from Walden.

[Upnorth]

Welcome aboard this little corner of insanity. I miss the screen pass as well and would love to see it included more.

[Patler]

Red. Do we use the slant as much as we used to? If it is being used less, are opposing teams taking it away or is our offensive line taking it away by sucking in the middle?

i suck in my middle even for the ugly girls

i don't really know about the slants. it sure doesn't seem like we use them like we use to, and i have no clue why we don't. that use to be our bread and butter

I don't "know" either, red & Swede.

But I do have a notion.

when we ran a lot of slants, we had the best 5 deep WR rotation in the league.

DD and Jennings were great at slants.

Now we are down to a big 3 and some fill-ins.

Slants get your ass hurt and we have gone away from 'em to keep the boys we have healthy.

We almost have to protect our guys from themselves.

Cobb, for instance, would catch a slant in front of a brick wall.

This is all IMHO, but I do feel it's a big factor.

Why fewer slants? MM gave us the answer in Rodgers' first year as a starter. He was asked about changes that were necessary when a new QB takes over. His response was that the basics of the offense would stay the same, but play calls would differ based on differences in what the different QBs do well and are most comfortable with. He gave two examples. He said (as we all knew) that Favre was very good at and very comfortable throwing slants, but that throw was not a particular strength of Rodgers. On the other hand, he said Rodgers was exceptional at midrange and deep sideline throws, which, he said, Favre was not particularly strong at.

So, with Rodgers, fewer slants and more sideline throws to Nelson!

[3irty1]

Why fewer slants? MM gave us the answer in Rodgers' first year as a starter. He was asked about changes that were necessary when a new QB takes over. His response was that the basics of the offense would stay the same, but play calls would differ based on differences in what the different QBs do well and are most comfortable with. He gave two examples. He said (as we all knew) that Favre was very good at and very comfortable throwing slants, but that throw was not a particular strength of Rodgers. On the other hand, he said Rodgers was exceptional at midrange and deep sideline throws, which, he said, Favre was not particularly strong at.

So, with Rodgers, fewer slants and more sideline throws to Nelson!

This. Slants were Favre's best throw. Rodgers best throw is that backshoulder throw along the sidelines.

[mraynrand]

I have a hard time believing that Rodgers struggles throwing a slant (physically). The trouble the Packers have with the slant is that teams like to jump the first window and if Rodgers holds until the second window, Rodgers typically is then investigating cloud shapes.

[Upnorth]

Watching the way opposing cbs play our wr looks like they try to take away the slant which might be a factor in the equation as well, but as we see the safeties two deep why are we not trying to use the screen more? The pass rush is usually aggressive and seeing the dl in our back field is normal so the screen should work.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I have a hard time believing that Rodgers struggles throwing a slant (physically). The trouble the Packers have with the slant is that teams like to jump the first window and if Rodgers holds until the second window, Rodgers typically is then investigating cloud shapes.

That was my first thought exactly.