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  • #46
    Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    I was thinking about the interceptions - the way that Urlacher seemed to come up with a big INT against the Pack every year. I wonder if after years of watching the Pack throw he learned to read it??? He probably saw more of it than any other single player.

    If we're talking about throws that have disappeared from the Packer's offense, it's the screen pass we should lament. I really miss watching Ahman Green catch the ball behind the DL and turn upfield for big, bruising gains. Seems to me the problem there was the right kind of back. How are Lacy's hands?

    I think we'll see more of the screen. I think both the rooks are capable of running it.

    I get all quivery thinking about Lacy barreling downfield with a full head of steam.

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    • #47
      I would like to see more screen passes as well, both because lacy looks awesome in space, but also because it may make the pass rush second guess them selves.
      All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

      George Orwell

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
        I would like to see more screen passes as well, both because lacy looks awesome in space, but also because it may make the pass rush second guess them selves.


        I agree with your analysis. The Seahawks just released Stephen Williams(6ft 5inches) wr that can catch and stretch the field vertically. We need to sign him as soon as possible.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by dahammer001 View Post
          I agree with your analysis. The Seahawks just released Stephen Williams(6ft 5inches) wr that can catch and stretch the field vertically. We need to sign him as soon as possible.

          Why would Seattle release such a threat that GB can use? Doesn't he need to pass through waivers? Why would you sign him for deep passes that stretch the field and require the QB to remain in the pocket longer when you advocate at the same time for screens to slow down that pass rush?
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #50
            Maybe Williams is adept at running slants?
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #51
              Originally posted by dahammer001 View Post
              I agree with your analysis. The Seahawks just released Stephen Williams(6ft 5inches) wr that can catch and stretch the field vertically. We need to sign him as soon as possible.
              I don't think the packers need help on the wr front, we have one of the best groups in the league. I do think the screen could work well with lacy.
              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

              George Orwell

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              • #52
                After Randall Cobb,James Jones and Jordy Nelson who else do we have available in an emergency?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                  I don't think the packers need help on the wr front, we have one of the best groups in the league. I do think the screen could work well with lacy.
                  They are going to need some young depth next year. With Ross gone (not sure how much he fit into WR picture regardless), there is Boykin, Johnson (PS) and Myles White (PS) and Reggie Dunn (PS). Dunn was mainly signed for returner I think.

                  Now I suppose that ANY spot on the roster that you read 7 deep will look like it can use some depth. But this is as bare as the #5 spot has been in some time.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by dahammer001 View Post
                    After Randall Cobb,James Jones and Jordy Nelson who else do we have available in an emergency?
                    and not to stir the pot even more, but......

                    jones is in the last year of his contract, gonna need to pay him good money to keep him. and cobb will be entering the final year of his rookie deal, its gonna be time to pay him big money too.

                    they might not pay both of those guys. we could be going into next season with just jordy and cobb or jordy and jones if we trade cobb. we could have gone from 5 or 6 deep at WR last year down to just 2 deep by next season.

                    this was one of the main issues i brought up last season during the "keep finley or jennings" debates before jennings burned his bridges. we can get real thin really fast at WR if we aren't careful

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
                      Frankly, I think it's high time that OL coach Campen be let go. We have seen year after year that the OL cannot run block very well. Rodgers is in the tops of the league in being sacked time and time again. True, injuries have happened, but I'm not seeing improvement by any of the players out there and that's on coaching. There's been one constant on the OL and that's Campen and perhaps it's time for some new blood there to see if that works.
                      Saying we don't run block very well would not be accurate this season. Pass pro is another story entirely.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Their run blocking this year is as good as its been since late 2007 and late 2010. It might prove to be better than both years before this is over. Right now, its pass blocking that is suffering and that is a deficiency of talent at right tackle mainly. Bach has done well enough its next to impossible to say he is as shaky as Newhouse.
                        Would Newhouse be a better option at RT even tho he struggled mightily at LT?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                          Saying we don't run block very well would not be accurate this season. Pass pro is another story entirely.
                          Packers are #2 in rushing yards per attempt. They're averaging almost 130 yards per game rushing which puts them at about #8.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            Would Newhouse be a better option at RT even tho he struggled mightily at LT?
                            Don't think so, though Newhouse has not spent much recent time there that I have seen. He did spend some camp time on the right. He's got great feet but isn't bigger than Barclay. He engages early but then relents and doesn't follow, while Barclay is tenacious. Neither has a great punch and both could have a better anchor. Barclay is the better run blocker by a good measure if you compare him on right and Newhouse on left last year.

                            Barclay got worked early in the Washington game by a one armed stiff arm-bull rush from Ryan Kerrigan. He seemed to adjust after that and did not spend much time in ARods lap. I just think he is close enough to Newhouse that you let him play and get better. Hopefully. Or replace him with Sherrod in Week 8
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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