LAST 12 ROAD GAMES....Anybody expectiving a Win Sunday ??

[Bretsky]

A couple stats Pat Kirwin brought up that are a bit concerning

Record: 4-8
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How disappoining of a loss would this really be ?

In reality, Green Bay's defense is not that good, and now they lost their best player. On the road against a pretty good team who also needs a win.


While I hope the offense carries us though, I'm tempering my expectations for a game I fully had expected us to win

[Joemailman]

It's a tossup. The Packers biggest problem is they're not converting drives into TD's. They're #3 in offensive yards gained, but only 12th in TD's. If they have more FG's than TD's again Sunday, they'll probably lose.

[bobblehead]

I will repeat what I said in the bengals gameday thread. A superbowl team goes on the road against an AFC team that is solid and wins. A playoff team loses a close one. After cincy we look like a playoff team, nothing more. After this game I would like to be more optimistic.

[red]

the ravens are not the team they have been in the past

we should be able to win. our defense might not be as great as their numbers show, but flacco is not as good as the media and his salary make him out to be either

[Bretsky]

the ravens are not the team they have been in the past

we should be able to win. our defense might not be as great as their numbers show, but flacco is not as good as the media and his salary make him out to be either

Don't you think the Ravens Board would be saying a similar things in that we're not as good as we've been in the past and with the loss of Matthews to an already marginal defense we are ripe to be playing right now ?

[hoosier]

I am optimistic that: the offense will get its act together and start converting FGs into TDs against Baltimore; with Perry and Neal they have two guys who can apply fairly consistent pressure, which should be better than having Matthews flanked by Nobody; and with the return of Barnett (and less McMillian) the secondary is starting to put its string of mistakes behind it.

All of that translates into a 31-20 Packer win.

[denverYooper]

the ravens are not the team they have been in the past

we should be able to win. our defense might not be as great as their numbers show, but flacco is not as good as the media and his salary make him out to be either

Suggs, Ngata, and Doom are a rough bunch up front. GB has been on a tour of tough front 7s (outside of WAS, anyhow) though, including 2 of the best in Cincy and Detroit, and have fared ok, so I don't think they'll wilt. Meltdowns up front have been one of the biggest failings of the O in the last couple of years and they seem less prone to it so far. If they continue on that track, they should win.

[mraynrand]

Road wins are tough. Ravens are a tough bunch and they don't surrender easy at home. Packers play like crap there. Ravens 31, Packers 24.

[ThunderDan]

And if you look at the last 19 road games we are 10-9.

[Fritz]

I have no reason for believing this, specifically, but somehow I believe the Pack can win this one. I think of how sucky their defense was last year, and I think even without Matthews, they will play better than last year's D. This year's D-line is doing the job.

I think the offense is slowly getting its shit together.

But it's football, so who knows?

I do know the Pack needs to get a real kick and punt returner. That's the missing puzzle piece.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I feel good about this one. Nixon returns a KO for a TD. Mulumba has 3 sacks. Franklin runs for 125 yds. Bostick has huge game. Packers win 35-7.

[pbmax]

Packers are 4-4 in their last eight road games. 11-7 in their last 18 roadies. Terrible. They have no chance.

Rk    Tm Year       Date  Time LTime  Opp  W  G Day  Result OT
1    GNB 2013 2013-09-22  1:03 13:03  CIN  3  3 Sun L 30-34   
2    GNB 2013 2013-09-08  4:26 13:26  SFO  1  1 Sun L 28-34   
3    GNB 2012 2012-12-30  4:25  3:25  MIN 17 16 Sun L 34-37   
4    GNB 2012 2012-12-16  1:03 12:03  CHI 15 14 Sun W 21-13   
5    GNB 2012 2012-11-25  8:30  8:30  NYG 12 11 Sun L 10-38   
6    GNB 2012 2012-11-18  1:02  1:02  DET 11 10 Sun W 24-20   
7    GNB 2012 2012-10-21  1:00 12:00  STL  7  7 Sun W 30-20   
8    GNB 2012 2012-10-14  8:30  7:30  HOU  6  6 Sun W 42-24   
9    GNB 2012 2012-10-07  1:03  1:03  IND  5  5 Sun L 27-30   
10   GNB 2012 2012-09-24  8:41  5:41  SEA  3  3 Mon L 12-14   
11   GNB 2011 2011-12-18  1:03 12:03  KAN 15 14 Sun L 14-19   
12   GNB 2011 2011-12-04  4:15  4:15  NYG 13 12 Sun W 38-35   
13   GNB 2011 2011-11-24 12:35 12:35  DET 12 11 Thu W 27-15   
14   GNB 2011 2011-11-06  4:15  1:15  SDG  9  8 Sun W 45-38   
15   GNB 2011 2011-10-23  4:15  3:15  MIN  7  7 Sun W 33-27   
16   GNB 2011 2011-10-09  8:30  8:30  ATL  5  5 Sun W 25-14   
17   GNB 2011 2011-09-25  4:15  3:15  CHI  3  3 Sun W 27-17   
18   GNB 2011 2011-09-18  1:02  1:02  CAR  2  2 Sun W 30-23

Losses included in Kirwan's idiotic factoid: Divisional opponent fighting for playoff berth (Minn), eventual Super Bowl participant (49ers), current Packer kryptonite Giants when missing half the starting defense, resurgent Colts with Luck, Seattle in a game that was a win, Kansas City (that was inexcusable).

Only the Giants game and 49er playoff game were blowouts. Except for question about pass rush, Packers match up well versus the Ravens. Going to be a whale of a game.

[pbmax]

All teams, on road versus playoff teams from 2012-2013 (this likely excludes this year's results):

Rk    Tm From   To G W L T  W-L%
1    ATL 2012 2012 1 1 0 0 1.000
2    PIT 2012 2012 3 2 1 0 0.667
3    TAM 2012 2012 3 2 1 0 0.667
4    CAR 2012 2012 2 1 1 0 0.500
5    DEN 2012 2012 4 2 2 0 0.500
6    SFO 2012 2012 4 2 2 0 0.500
7    CIN 2012 2012 2 1 1 0 0.500
8    HOU 2012 2012 3 1 2 0 0.333
[B]9    GNB 2012 2012 4 1 3 0 0.250[/B]
10   STL 2012 2012 2 0 1 1 0.250
11   JAX 2012 2012 4 1 3 0 0.250
12   NYG 2012 2012 5 1 4 0 0.200
13   MIN 2012 2012 5 1 4 0 0.200
14   DAL 2012 2012 5 1 4 0 0.200
15   MIA 2012 2012 5 1 4 0 0.200
16   ARI 2012 2012 6 1 5 0 0.167
17   KAN 2012 2012 1 0 1 0 0.000
18   BAL 2012 2012 3 0 3 0 0.000
19   CLE 2012 2012 4 0 4 0 0.000
20   TEN 2012 2012 4 0 4 0 0.000
21   CHI 2012 2012 3 0 3 0 0.000
22   NOR 2012 2012 3 0 3 0 0.000
23   BUF 2012 2012 4 0 4 0 0.000
24   IND 2012 2012 2 0 2 0 0.000
25   PHI 2012 2012 1 0 1 0 0.000
26   SDG 2012 2012 1 0 1 0 0.000
27   NYJ 2012 2012 2 0 2 0 0.000
28   SEA 2012 2012 1 0 1 0 0.000
29   OAK 2012 2012 4 0 4 0 0.000
30   NWE 2012 2012 2 0 2 0 0.000
31   DET 2012 2012 3 0 3 0 0.000

That includes two losses to the 49ers. Packers are second in the League in road record versus playoff teams from 2011-2013 (please note win % leader Wash has had one road game versus playoff team):

Rk    Tm From   To G W L T  W-L%
1    WAS 2011 2011 1 1 0 0 1.000
[B]2    GNB 2011 2012 7 4 3 0 0.571[/B]
3    SFO 2011 2012 7 4 3 0 0.571
4    ATL 2011 2012 4 2 2 0 0.500
5    PIT 2011 2012 7 3 4 0 0.429
6    BAL 2011 2012 5 2 3 0 0.400
7    DEN 2011 2012 5 2 3 0 0.400
8    PHI 2011 2012 3 1 2 0 0.333
9    CAR 2011 2012 6 2 4 0 0.333
10   HOU 2011 2012 6 2 4 0 0.333
11   OAK 2011 2012 7 2 5 0 0.286
12   TAM 2011 2012 7 2 5 0 0.286
13   NYG 2011 2012 8 2 6 0 0.250
14   DAL 2011 2012 8 2 6 0 0.250
15   KAN 2011 2012 4 1 3 0 0.250

[pbmax]

From 2010 to 2013, road record versus playoff teams:

Rk    Tm From   To  G W  L T  W-L%
1    WAS 2010 2011  3 3  0 0 1.000
[B]2    GNB 2010 2012 12 6  6 0 0.500[/B]
3    ATL 2010 2012  8 4  4 0 0.500
4    BAL 2010 2012  9 4  5 0 0.444
5    PIT 2010 2012  9 4  5 0 0.444
6    NWE 2010 2012  7 3  4 0 0.429
7    DAL 2010 2012 11 4  7 0 0.364
8    SFO 2010 2012 11 4  7 0 0.364
9    SEA 2010 2012  6 2  4 0 0.333
10   KAN 2010 2012  6 2  4 0 0.333

[Guiness]

Is Patler on sabatical and you're standing in?