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  • #16
    The running game is wonderful. However its magical ability to improve pass protection has been in awfully short supply. This is going to continue to be a problem.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      The running game is wonderful. However its magical ability to improve pass protection has been in awfully short supply. This is going to continue to be a problem.
      ya, how many years have we heard that pass protection would be so much better if they only had a legitimate running game? In reality, it seems to have gotten worse. What may occur is the re-emergence of big plays, like the TD to Nelson. That shouldn't be confused with good pass protection, should it?

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      • #18
        We have argued whether or not it's the OL or the RB that causes the biggest improvement in the rushing game.

        When it comes to pass protection per se, I think the burden of responsibility still falls mainly on the OL. Tactics merely makes the task of the OL a bit easier at times.
        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          The running game is wonderful. However its magical ability to improve pass protection has been in awfully short supply. This is going to continue to be a problem.
          Sherrod, I just want to say good luck, we're all counting on you.

          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            ya, how many years have we heard that pass protection would be so much better if they only had a legitimate running game? In reality, it seems to have gotten worse. What may occur is the re-emergence of big plays, like the TD to Nelson. That shouldn't be confused with good pass protection, should it?
            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
            We have argued whether or not it's the OL or the RB that causes the biggest improvement in the rushing game.

            When it comes to pass protection per se, I think the burden of responsibility still falls mainly on the OL. Tactics merely makes the task of the OL a bit easier at times.
            Maybe the running game improving pass pro is the lie coaches tell mediocre QBs about why they are running the ball so much.

            To his credit. McCarthy hasn't had as many empty backfields recently though there were plenty early in this season. That has to help a little.

            Rodgers is simply very comfortable holding the ball waiting for something to open up if his initial read is not good. That makes his O line's job quite hard. If the O line from 2010 was here with this running game, we might notice a difference because they already excelled at pass pro.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              I was just looking at NFL.com

              GB is 2nd in total offense per game at 450.2 ypg
              GB is 4th in passing at 309.4 ypg
              GB is 5th in rushing at 140.8 ypg
              GB is 5th in points per game at 27.4
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                I was just looking at NFL.com

                GB is 2nd in total offense per game at 450.2 ypg
                GB is 4th in passing at 309.4 ypg
                GB is 5th in rushing at 140.8 ypg
                GB is 5th in points per game at 27.4
                Maybe the offense as a whole, the passing game specifically and Rodgers individually are not as broken as it feels they are watching them.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Maybe the offense as a whole, the passing game specifically and Rodgers individually are not as broken as it feels they are watching them.
                  Yeah, looking at P Manning so far this year and Denver everyone else's offense looks broken.

                  Even after what felt like a shitty game for ARod he was second in the league for passing yards last week.
                  But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                  -Tim Harmston

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                  • #24
                    They do not seem to be getting points at the rate you expect, but since they have played only 5 games they are in the Top 10 in scoring. Rk (Rank) is for total point, list is sorted by Avg Pts/game.


                    Code:
                    Rk	Tm		G	Pts	AvgPts/g
                    1	Denver Broncos	6	265	44.2
                    2	Dallas Cowboys	6	183	30.5
                    3	Chicago Bears	6	172	28.7
                    4	Philadelphia 	6	166	27.7
                    13	Green Bay Pack	5	137	27.4
                    5	Detroit Lions	6	162	27.0
                    6	New Orleans 	6	161	26.8
                    7	Seattle Seaha	6	157	26.2
                    8	Kansas City Ch	6	152	25.3
                    18	Minnesota Viki	5	125	25.0
                    9	Indianapolis C	6	148	24.7
                    19	Atlanta Falcons	5	122	24.4
                    10	San Francisco 	6	145	24.2
                    11	San Diego Cha	6	144	24.0
                    12	St. Louis Rams	6	141	23.5
                    22	Miami Dolphins	5	114	22.8
                    14	Buffalo Bills	6	136	22.7
                    15	Baltimore Rav	6	134	22.3
                    24	Carolina Panth	5	109	21.8
                    25	Washington	5	107	21.4
                    16	Tennessee Tit	6	128	21.3
                    17	New England 	6	125	20.8
                    20	Cincinnati Ben	6	121	20.2
                    21	Cleveland Bro	6	118	19.7
                    23	Arizona Cards	6	111	18.5
                    26	Houston Texa	6	106	17.7
                    30	Pittsburgh St	5	88	17.6
                    27	Oakland Raiders	6	105	17.5
                    28	New York Jets	6	104	17.3
                    29	New York Giants	6	103	17.2
                    32	Tampa Bay	5	64	12.8
                    31	Jacksonville	6	70	11.7
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Maybe the offense as a whole, the passing game specifically and Rodgers individually are not as broken as it feels they are watching them.
                      San Fransisco, Cincinnati, Detroit, and Baltimore all have pretty good defenses, and all can put on a strong 4 man rush -- frequently a problem for the GB offense, and sometimes a huge problem. Cleveland also has a good defense.
                      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        They do not seem to be getting points at the rate you expect, but since they have played only 5 games they are in the Top 10 in scoring. Rk (Rank) is for total point, list is sorted by Avg Pts/game.


                        Code:
                        Rk	Tm		G	Pts	AvgPts/g
                        1	Denver Broncos	6	265	44.2
                        2	Dallas Cowboys	6	183	30.5
                        3	Chicago Bears	6	172	28.7
                        4	Philadelphia 	6	166	27.7
                        13	Green Bay Pack	5	137	27.4
                        5	Detroit Lions	6	162	27.0
                        6	New Orleans 	6	161	26.8
                        7	Seattle Seaha	6	157	26.2
                        8	Kansas City Ch	6	152	25.3
                        18	Minnesota Viki	5	125	25.0
                        9	Indianapolis C	6	148	24.7
                        19	Atlanta Falcons	5	122	24.4
                        10	San Francisco 	6	145	24.2
                        11	San Diego Cha	6	144	24.0
                        12	St. Louis Rams	6	141	23.5
                        22	Miami Dolphins	5	114	22.8
                        14	Buffalo Bills	6	136	22.7
                        15	Baltimore Rav	6	134	22.3
                        24	Carolina Panth	5	109	21.8
                        25	Washington	5	107	21.4
                        16	Tennessee Tit	6	128	21.3
                        17	New England 	6	125	20.8
                        20	Cincinnati Ben	6	121	20.2
                        21	Cleveland Bro	6	118	19.7
                        23	Arizona Cards	6	111	18.5
                        26	Houston Texa	6	106	17.7
                        30	Pittsburgh St	5	88	17.6
                        27	Oakland Raiders	6	105	17.5
                        28	New York Jets	6	104	17.3
                        29	New York Giants	6	103	17.2
                        32	Tampa Bay	5	64	12.8
                        31	Jacksonville	6	70	11.7
                        Chicago ahead of us in points per game. I just puked a bit in my mouth.
                        "In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

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                        • #27
                          I didn't realize Tennessee Tit was averaging 21.3 points/game
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            I didn't realize Tennessee Tit was averaging 21.3 points/game
                            No one is better than Mike Munchak at milking talent out of an offense.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              No one is better than Mike Munchak at milking talent out of an offense.
                              He's just got the winning formula.
                              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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