With more stories like these (and the 2011 story from high school), it's only a matter of time before the ranks of football players will begin to be depleted from the ground level up. Unless relatively inexpensive head/brain protection technology is available soon...
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Ray Rice's comments are interesting to say the least...
A guy I work with is in this exact situation. His son plays in Jr. H.S. and has been diagnosed with a concussion. The doctor has prescribed no football...none. My coworker explained to his son that he could suffer permanent damage and/or die. The son still wanted to play. Most remarkably my coworker is thinking about letting his kid play! His reasons are the same as Rice's. He doesn't want to deny the kid the opportunity. I don't understand. There are other things to live or die for besides football.… Yeah I would let my son play. I wouldn’t want to take that opportunity away from him. As much as they talk about concussions, there’s guys who — they get hit in the head with baseballs, you can get whacked in hockey, you can get hurt in any sport you play because you’re playing at a different level of competition. So it’s just football happens to be a contact sport so it gets scrutinized and looked at in a different way.”One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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By the way, Lombardi didn't agree with Rice. He said football is NOT a contact sport. He said it's a collision sport and he instilled that mentality into his players.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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The numbers are already decreasing. I've seen reports of 10-20% fewer kids going out for football just compared to last year. Given we're really at the beginning of the Concussion Era, it's very likely that it's going to keep dropping more and more. I've even read that out in PA, some smaller high schools couldn't even field a team; and they're nuts about football out there.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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A few things:
1.) I'm surprised no one has posted this until now.
2.) I watched it with my wife last week and thought it was very well done, pulling together a lot facts into a cohesive and compelling narrative. We were spellbound for 2 hours. As Stephen White mentioned, it was one-sided, but it wasn't like the other side didn't have a chance to present their counterarguments.
3.) My wife already swore that our son would never play football, but the documentary sealed it for her. I have a hard time disagreeing with her, though I refuse to be final about it. The game will likely change a lot in the 13 years he has until HS. He does already love to play basketball, though.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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Yet studies have reported that in HS basketball the frequency of concussions is also high (somewhere around 20/100,000 participants), albeit 1/3 that of HS football. Football is the leader (64/100k), but hockey (54/100k - no surprise), lacrosse (40/100k), soccer (33/100k girls, 19/100k boys) and wrestling (22/100k) also carry significant risk. If you want to minimize the risk, you have to look at track & field (2/100k), swimming/diving (1/100k) and maybe baseball (5/100k).
A point that has always been curious to me, why do these studies never mention boxing? I know it's not a high school sport, so specific studies of HS sports will not mention it, but in discussing youth sports it should come up.
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Originally posted by Patler View PostYet studies have reported that in HS basketball the frequency of concussions is also high (somewhere around 20/100,000 participants), albeit 1/3 that of HS football. Football is the leader (64/100k), but hockey (54/100k - no surprise), lacrosse (40/100k), soccer (33/100k girls, 19/100k boys) and wrestling (22/100k) also carry significant risk. If you want to minimize the risk, you have to look at track & field (2/100k), swimming/diving (1/100k) and maybe baseball (5/100k).
A point that has always been curious to me, why do these studies never mention boxing? I know it's not a high school sport, so specific studies of HS sports will not mention it, but in discussing youth sports it should come up.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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good point, but as with most things, perception is reality for many poorly informed people. As football becomes associated with concussions (and this is the clear purpose and intent for many), other sports, regardless of their concussion frequencies, will increase in participation. Of course, they eventually will have their own challenges as the activists go after them. Remember activists by their very nature will have to go after something.Originally posted by Patler View PostYet studies have reported that in HS basketball the frequency of concussions is also high (somewhere around 20/100,000 participants), albeit 1/3 that of HS football. Football is the leader (64/100k), but hockey (54/100k - no surprise), lacrosse (40/100k), soccer (33/100k girls, 19/100k boys) and wrestling (22/100k) also carry significant risk. If you want to minimize the risk, you have to look at track & field (2/100k), swimming/diving (1/100k) and maybe baseball (5/100k).
A point that has always been curious to me, why do these studies never mention boxing? I know it's not a high school sport, so specific studies of HS sports will not mention it, but in discussing youth sports it should come up.
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"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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It's not just the concussions, either. Parents are waking up to fact that they don't want their kids wrecking their knees.Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig View PostThe numbers are already decreasing. I've seen reports of 10-20% fewer kids going out for football just compared to last year. Given we're really at the beginning of the Concussion Era, it's very likely that it's going to keep dropping more and more. I've even read that out in PA, some smaller high schools couldn't even field a team; and they're nuts about football out there.
Soccer is a much healthier sport, and all the kids get to touch the ball. Of course every sport has dangers, but football is kinda crazy.
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That's probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted. Over half the internet is devoted to people watching other people screw each other. And that's just politics. The rest is sex.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
Is it really that fun to watch people having sex?"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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LOL! That's probably the funniest thing you've ever posted!Originally posted by mraynrand View PostThat's probably the dumbest thing you've ever posted. Over half the internet is devoted to people watching other people screw each other. And that's just politics. The rest is sex.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers
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