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  • #61
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    I disagree that an ugly hit was made on Finley. Finley was not defenseless, he was plowing into the defensive backs. The second defensive back hit Finley without leading with his helmet. Finley is falling forward to get extra yardage, it's tackle football.
    But it's not tackle football; that's the problem. It's guys launching themselves at other guys. Where's the tackling? Look at Nitschke, wrapping that guy up and tackling him.

    But I do think the refs fudged up the Hawk facemask. Did his fingers brush across Weedon's facemask for a second?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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    • #62
      Just want to point out on the Hawk play, it appears Hawk leaves his feet to "launch" himself into the QB. If Hawk just breaks down, keeps his head up, and form tackles Weeden, he doesn't fly out of control and miss the sack in the first place. So yeah, probably a lame call, but could have been avoided.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
        Except Finley is going parallel to the line of scrimmage and not advancing up the field.
        No, Finley gets a extra half yard or yard if the 2nd DB doesn't come in with his shoulder.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          But it's not tackle football; that's the problem. It's guys launching themselves at other guys. Where's the tackling? Look at Nitschke, wrapping that guy up and tackling him.
          That was no vicious launch, it was a routine play.

          I know sometimes you get all emotional during your period, but there was no high drama by the defenders here.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
            No, Finley gets a extra half yard or yard if the 2nd DB doesn't come in with his shoulder.
            Finley was headed across the width of the field, the safety is running through the length of the field. If the safety never hits him, he falls toward the sideline.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
              Except Finley is going parallel to the line of scrimmage and not advancing up the field. And from pb's picture in post #42 the CLE player has lowered his helmet and is leading with his helmet even though he makes contact with his shoulder pad.

              Other than that you got everything right!
              no he wasn't he was moving down the field at a small angle, the video also clearly shows finley dropping his head for contact

              i agree with blue dog, finley get another half yard or more if not for the hit. i think fonley's momentum and directio would have gotten him to the 45

              i like M3's feeling on it best. 2 football players playing football

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              • #67
                Looking at that video, it appears at the 15 second mark that it's actually the crown of Finley's helmet that strikes the side of the defender's helmet. I don't know much about physics, but this could just have easily have led to a head injury to the defender.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
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                • #68
                  Finley was breaking tackles and bouncing off DBs to get extra yards all game. I would expect defenders to keep hitting him until the whistle blew.

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                  • #69
                    i win, patler and joe agree with me

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                    • #70
                      Jermichael Finley ✔ @JermichaelF88
                      I want to thank my family, friends, teammates, fans and Packer Nation for the prayers and support over the past 24 hrs. I'm happy to report that I have been transferred out of the intensive care unit and that I have full feeling in my arms and legs. As importantly, I was able 2 walk to & from the shower today, which was badly needed after yesterday's victory! Thank u again 4 the support, and Go Packers!

                      Glad to see he hasn't lost his sense of humor.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #71
                        Nothing wrong with the hit IMO. Guys hit players who are already wrapped up all the time, hoping to force a fumble. The injury resulted from Finley dropping his head into the hitting zone, plain and simple.

                        I doubt this is the last we've seen from Finley. This could potentially change the way he plays the game, where he becomes less of a physical player and goes down more easily...but I see very little chance of him hanging it up and leaving $30M on the table.
                        It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                        • #72
                          No problem with him tackling Finley. How about a hit that doesn't involve leading with his head? And looking at what he is hitting?

                          The technique is just asking for an injury.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #73
                            TV just said (unattributed) that Finley has a bruised spinal cord.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              No problem with him tackling Finley. How about a hit that doesn't involve leading with his head? And looking at what he is hitting?
                              For starters, the defender did NOT lead with his helmet. Take a look at the first still photo posted of the tackle. Finley is the one who is LEADING with his head into the impact, not the defender. In fact, the defender's SHOULDER is what contacted Finley.

                              Secondly, there is no rule stating you have to look at what you are hitting. Perhaps it is dumb and certainly not fundamentally correct...but it is hardly against the rules.
                              It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                TV just said (unattributed) that Finley has a bruised spinal cord.
                                is that a good thing or a bad thing? sounds not so bad.

                                bruises heal, right?

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