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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    KY,

    Clayton indicated teams have to have a "minimal cash payroll". Could that be different from the salary cap figure and be exclusive of the dead cap hits ? Just wondering.
    No Brets, I believe this is the cap figure, not cash spent each year It's based on the shared rev. A team must spend a minimum of 56% (I'm guessing from memory here, Patler come back!) of the rev on player salaries, measured by the cap figure. I thought our min was 82 mil, ESPN is saying 85, I think that figure is wrong. The min is set by the CBA.

    Here's another thing Clayton and the goofs don't seem to know. Under the old system, the Minimum Team Salary (MTS) was set at 56%. If a team did not allocate at least 56%, then the players on the team roster for that year will be directly paid the shortage.

    I dunno if the new wsystem incorporated that MTS requirement.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by shamrockfan
      If they stay at #5, their 1st round picck will have a lot of guaranteed money. Instead of a signing bonus over 4 or 5 years, give him a roster bonus so it all counts this year.

      There will be lots of ways to get to the minimum. In season renegotiations for players like Green, Davenport, Cole, Peterson, Lee, Wells, Jenkins, etc, etc. could also happen.
      You can't, you'd use up the entire rookie pool and couldn't sign anyone else.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Rastak
        Originally posted by shamrockfan
        If they stay at #5, their 1st round picck will have a lot of guaranteed money. Instead of a signing bonus over 4 or 5 years, give him a roster bonus so it all counts this year.

        There will be lots of ways to get to the minimum. In season renegotiations for players like Green, Davenport, Cole, Peterson, Lee, Wells, Jenkins, etc, etc. could also happen.
        You can't, you'd use up the entire rookie pool and couldn't sign anyone else.
        That's the point, use up the entire rookie pool. Often teams do no come close to using the entire alloted amount for rookies, so they can use it on other veterans. The Packers will have a high allotment because of their draft position, and can simply make sure the rookies' contracts use up that amount.

        They can then proceed during the year to resign a player or two in his last contract year to reach the minimum player payments amount, if necessary.

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        • #19
          Maybe he is planning on redoing a bunch of core players contracts, and keeping some headway incase some of the guys with 1 year offers pan out so he has money to give them extensions, frontloaded, to decrease future cap value

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          • #20
            I'll add this to the pot:

            SALARY FLOOR MOVES UP

            One of the most overlooked issues during the recent negotiations regarding the money that will be used to fund the salary cap under the new CBA was the salary floor -- i.e., the minimum money that each team must spend on player salaries in a given year.

            In 2006, the minimum is 84 percent of the maximum. Based on a salary cap of $102 million, this means that every team must spend at least $85.68 million in 2006.

            Coincidentally, the maximum per-team expenditure in 2005 was $85 million.

            Come 2006, the minimum bumps up to 90 percent. With the salary cap expected to be at least $109 million, the floor moves to a whopping $98.1 million.

            This reality sheds further light, in our opinion, on the Magooish attacks launched by Bills owner Ralph Wilson against the new deal. Wilson argues that a salary formula based on total football revenues earned by all teams increases the player costs of small-market teams, since the big money earned by high-revenue clubs is pushing the numbers higher for the franchises that earn less money.

            And it also helps us understand Wilson's boasts that he's not afraid of the uncapped year. With no salary cap, there's also no salary floor, allowing the low-revenue teams to pay as little as they want.


            I have posted about this but I believe that John Clayton's ESPN article on the Packers current salary being at $76 million, is bogus.
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            • #21
              You have to dig a little deeper to understand salary caps this time of year anyway, if for no other reason than that not everyone counts!

              During the offseason, a team's salary cap includes only the highest paid 51 players plus current year bonuses. During the season, the full 53 man roster counts, plus everyone on IR, pluse everyone on the practice squad. There are a lot more salaries included once the season starts.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by shamrockfan
                You have to dig a little deeper to understand salary caps this time of year anyway, if for no other reason than that not everyone counts!

                During the offseason, a team's salary cap includes only the highest paid 51 players plus current year bonuses. During the season, the full 53 man roster counts, plus everyone on IR, pluse everyone on the practice squad. There are a lot more salaries included once the season starts.

                Yes you are right.Maybe John Clayton's number isn't out that much afterall.I am mistaken.

                I just took a quick look at that 2006 Salary Cap post I made , and I took about $8 million off that $84.7 million number real fast Shamrock.

                So after we pay out about $7 million for OUR Rookie class and adjust the number for a Favre retirement back $5 million not $10 million then:

                76 - 5 = 71 + 7 = 78 or we have to spend another approx. $7 million to get up to the minimum salary for a Team.

                The trouble with that argument is. TT and M3 have said they want Favre back, so it's moot if you look at the long and short of it. All around, the analysis supports a Favre return too, as I see it.
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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