THE injury

[denverYooper]

The sources don't know as much as M3 does about the situation. Maybe he's just trying to leverage Rodgers's injury in a feeble attempt to confuse teams but at his presser today, he genuinely seemed to feel like Rodgers should be able to play. You are right about TT, I think, but I think the whole bit about "organization" was mostly something the media spun up out of the fact that M3 used some form of "organization" 9 times in his Friday presser.

[pbmax]

for those that thought that article that can out sunday from "sources" that said a-rod was actually no where near being able to play

then why the fuck is there still a huge decision to be made?

why would M3 come out one day later and announce that there is a lot of "conversation" going on about the decision?

that article that came out yesterday was nothing but damage control by the team and TT because TT got his vag hurt by M3 throwing him under the bus on friday and blaming the "organization" for a-rod not playing.

fyi, organization = TT

M3 and Rodgers are on the positive side, they see him able to play.

That ESPN article, the Doc and Thompson see the downside, its not hard to discern the difference now that M3 has been a little more clear. Its about what happens to his collarbone if he breaks it again. From dislocation, to ligament or nerve damage, the only open question is degree of risk.

The two sides are no longer hard to reconcile.

[pbmax]

M3 and Rodgers are on the positive side, they see him able to play.

That ESPN article, the Doc and Thompson see the downside, its not hard to discern the difference now that M3 has been a little more clear. Its about what happens to his collarbone if he breaks it again. From dislocation, to ligament or nerve damage, the only open question is degree of risk.

The two sides are no longer hard to reconcile.

Just watched the section on Rodgers. Some Tweets made it sound like he said something new, pointing to a difference of opinion but he was answering a question about the process so it was a pretty benign statement.

But I think short versus long term still explains most of the confusion.

[mraynrand]

The two sides are no longer hard to reconcile.

Do you mean his collarbone, or people in the organization?

[Guiness]

Just watched the section on Rodgers. Some Tweets made it sound like he said something new, pointing to a difference of opinion but he was answering a question about the process so it was a pretty benign statement.

But I think short versus long term still explains most of the confusion.

I swear, if he has MSRA or some other f'ing infection à la Sherrod someone needs to be shot and pissed on.

Speaking of Sherrod, that reminds me...Newhouse made his way onto the field Sunday. Anyone got insight into that? Was someone getting a breather or was it a special package with him as the 'heavy' TE? Did they forget to hide his helmet and he snuck on???

[red]

I swear, if he has MSRA or some other f'ing infection à la Sherrod someone needs to be shot and pissed on.

Speaking of Sherrod, that reminds me...Newhouse made his way onto the field Sunday. Anyone got insight into that? Was someone getting a breather or was it a special package with him as the 'heavy' TE? Did they forget to hide his helmet and he snuck on???

well, he didn't have surgery, so it might be hard to get msra

someone mentioned in the game thread that newhouse was in the game as a fat TE just for that one play. of course he did manage to fuck up on that one play. and i noted in the GDT that its a bad sign for sherrod when he's healthy enough to play, he's getting some reps, but newhouse who can't step on the field without fucking up, and barclay who fucks up about 50% of the time are still higher on the depth chart then he is

i think if sherrod has any future with the team, he would be getting some real reps by now

[pbmax]

Do you mean his collarbone, or people in the organization?

I meant the organization. However, if you believe Wilde, these things are also true:

1. At Rodgers behest, the Packers did not declare Rodgers out with a collarbone injury the night of the Bears game. He did not want it disclosed.

2. Wilde believes McCarthy/agent (his agent is Trace Armstrong apparently) is the source for the Mortenson story and that the relationship between Coach and QB will now be strained. Wilde seemed kinda peeved and declared that no one had presented a case for the leak to be from anyone except McCarthy.


The only open question is WHY they have been playing this like a week to week thing for several weeks now. The rumor is that Rodgers has a non-displaced spiral fracture of his collarbone and the minimum the team expected was 8 weeks if things went according to plan.

[HarveyWallbangers]

for those that thought that article that can out sunday from "sources" that said a-rod was actually no where near being able to play

then why the fuck is there still a huge decision to be made?

why would M3 come out one day later and announce that there is a lot of "conversation" going on about the decision?

that article that came out yesterday was nothing but damage control by the team and TT because TT got his vag hurt by M3 throwing him under the bus on friday and blaming the "organization" for a-rod not playing.

fyi, organization = TT

Making the Bears waste a couple of days preparing for ARod. I think McCarthy realizes now that it's a big distraction than it's worth for his team.

[pbmax]

Making the Bears waste a couple of days preparing for ARod. I think McCarthy realizes now that it's a big distraction than it's worth for his team.

I hope there was more to it than that, because that little gambit has now cost the team internally. Its backfired.

It might explain Rodgers' willingness to play the "maybe I 'll be cleared by Saturday card" for weeks after initially resisting the idea to disclose the injury. He went along with it until he saw it was costing him his reputation for constantly being ruled out while publicly he looked week to week.

If this was designed to fool the opposition, it was poorly conceived and has now given the team a black-eye.

[woodbuck27]

Making the Bears waste a couple of days preparing for ARod. I think McCarthy realizes now that it's a big distraction than it's worth for his team.

Do you mean:

I think McCarthy realizes now that it's a (bigger) distraction than ( it's ie such distraction) worth (as a value) for his team.

If so no kidding. MM need not waste such nonsense on such deception.

That crap spills all over your lap.

[woodbuck27]

I hope there was more to it than that, because that little gambit has now cost the team internally. Its backfired.

It might explain Rodgers' willingness to play the "maybe I 'll be cleared by Saturday card" for weeks after initially resisting the idea to disclose the injury. He went along with it until he saw it was costing him his reputation for constantly being ruled out while publicly he looked week to week.

If this was designed to fool the opposition, it was poorly conceived and has now given the team a black-eye.

That's the TRUTH and the worst of it is it's pissing off a lot of Packer fans that don't appreciate not being treated with forthrightness.

If I were an advisor to TT and MM.

I'd tell them both to get on with the real TRUTH like tomorrow.

a) Come 100% TRUTH and the Aaron Rodgers current medical status.

b) Humbly apologize to all Packer fans for handling the whole mess like schoolyard boys/girls trying to hide some silly secret.


This is getting too really ugly. Don't ever treat fans like morons. Many Packer fans are paying strict attention and have more than half a clue (the Official managements side) and are getting very close to enrage and MM and TT. Dishonesty piss's off a teams fan base for a long long time.

Lose that TRUST or the TRUST OF THE FANS and your soon FIRED !

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packersnews.com/proart/20131223/pkr01/312230344/mccarthy-said-team-will-make-rodgers-decision-sooner-rather-than-later-week?pagerestricted=1

McCarthy said: The **Team will make Rodgers decision sooner rather than later this week.

Comment woodbuck27:

** Note the distinction here where MM uses the word ' Team ' and last week he used the word Organization; 'or an organizational decision ... over and over and over again.

For a moment there last week I wondered if Mike McCarthy had been anywhere near Stepford, Conn.

Stepford husbands ... all the rage with the ladies.

[woodbuck27]

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 34m
12/23/13 Massaging the message: Mike McCarthy didn't talk about Aaron Rodgers' recovery and potential medical ... http://bit.ly/1cOGlGp

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
The @ESPNMilwaukee, @ESPNMadison story on what #Packers Mike McCarthy said about Rodgers. You tell me what you think: http://bit.ly/1bnrsKe

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
You can ignore me on this if you'd like. Way McCarthy talked today gave different vibe. Writing now. Sorry to get your hopes up if I did.

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
Another crazy man. RT @KCousineau09: Call it whatever you want….but I think someone might get news he’s wanted to hear for nearly 2 months.

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
Now is a good time to point out that The @AaronRodgers12 Show is at 1:30 CST Tuesday on @ESPNMilwaukee, @ESPNMadison.

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
The way McCarthy talked, the way he said they wanted a decision early in the week, and the gravity of the game ... Maybe I'm wrong.

** Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3h
Am I crazy if my gut is telling me that Aaron Rodgers gets the thumbs-up tomorrow from Dr. McKenzie and starts for #Packers Sunday?

Comment woodbuck27:

Isn't that interesting... Well we'll see won't we. I'm not getting my hopes up. That's simply rumor to this cat.

If he's behind center Vs the Bears then Aaron Rodgers is back.

GO PACK GO !

[Bretsky]

So Rodgers is out again....does not bode well for the Packers this Sunday....but I think we'll get another surprise performance and the dream continues.

You were right
The great part about Green Bay continuing to lose is that our competition for the NFC North does as well

I think the streak stops next week.........one way or the other

[woodbuck27]

You were right
The great part about Green Bay continuing to lose is that our competition for the NFC North does as well

I think the streak stops next week.........one way or the other

If it goes to OT and remains tied......Yuuuuuccchh!